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<div class="heading">When Rūpa Gosvāmī was there in Vṛndāvana in his bhajana, Mirabhai went to see him. And Rūpa Gosvāmī's message was that he does not see any woman. They were very strict. At least, the story is like... So Mira challenged that "I came to Vṛndāvana. I know that only Kṛṣṇa is puruṣa here, and everyone is woman. So how does it mean that Rūpa Gosvāmī's declined to see another woman?" So Rūpa Gosvāmī agreed, "Yes, I am mistaken. Yes, Kṛṣṇa is the only puruṣa."
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<span class="link">[[Vanisource:Lecture on BG Lecture -- Ahmedabad, December 8, 1972|Lecture on BG Lecture -- Ahmedabad, December 8, 1972]]: </span><div style="display: inline;" class="text"><p style="display: inline;">
The description of ''mukti'' is given in the ''Bhagavad ''. . . ''Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam'': ''muktir hitvā anyathā-rūpaṁ svarūpeṇa vyavasthitiḥ'' ([[Vanisource:SB 2.10.6|SB 2.10.6]]). That is ''mukti''. ''Mukti'' means if you give up the artificial endeavor to become predominator and become situated in your original position, being predominated, that is called ''mukti''. We can very easily understand. Artificially . . . suppose a woman is trying to become man artificially. How long it will go on? How she can be happy? That is not possible.

Actually, in the Western countries at least, we see that the woman class, they want equal rights with men. And there is. There is no distinction. But it is my experience, the woman class, they are not happy in the Western countries. And still in our country, although we are so fallen, still our woman class remains satisfied. Being predominated, they are happy. They are happy. That is my practical experience.

So I do not wish to discuss this point very much, but according to our ''Manu-saṁhitā'', it is said that women should not be free. ''Na svātantryam arhati'': "''Svātantryam'' is not allowed to the woman class." Actually, we have seen, and by experience, those who are under the domination of the father when they, still they are not married, they are happy.

Those who are under the domination of the husband after being married, they're happy. And those who are under the domination of elderly children, they are happy. So this statement of ''Manu-saṁhitā'' . . . just like children should not be given freedom, similarly, woman should not be given freedom. They should be given all protection. That is our Vedic culture.

Similarly, ''prakṛti'' . . . just, this is an example. Here, either man or woman, everyone is ''prakṛti''. The real ''puruṣa'' is Kṛṣṇa. And there is a nice example. When Rūpa Gosvāmī was there in Vṛndāvana in his ''bhajana'', Mīrābhāi went to see him. And Rūpa Gosvāmī's message was that he does not see any woman.

They were very strict. At least, the story is like . . . so Mīrā challenged that, "I came to Vṛndāvana. I know that only Kṛṣṇa is ''puruṣa'' here, and everyone is woman. So how does it mean that Rūpa Gosvāmī's declined to see another woman?" So Rūpa Gosvāmī agreed, "Yes, I am mistaken. Yes, Kṛṣṇa is the only ''puruṣa''."

So ''puruṣa'' means the enjoyer, and ''prakṛti'' means the instrument of enjoyment, ''prakṛti'', energy. Just like here we see one man is very big, rich man, but he's enjoyer by utilizing his energy. Similarly, the whole cosmic situation, whole creation is . . . the supreme enjoyer is God. Therefore Kṛṣṇa says in the ''Bhagavad-gītā'':

:''bhoktāraṁ yajña-tapasāṁ''
:''sarva-loka-maheśvaram''
:''suhṛdaṁ sarva-bhūtānāṁ''
:''jñātvā māṁ śāntim ṛcchati''
:([[Vanisource:BG 5.29 (1972)|BG 5.29]])

If we want really peace, then we should understand these three things: that Kṛṣṇa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is the enjoyer. We have to serve Him for His enjoyment. That is called devotional service, transcendental loving service. Just like the master is there, and for his enjoyment, there are so many servants. They are engaged in his service. That is our position. ''Mamaivāṁśo jīva-bhūtaḥ'' ([[Vanisource:BG 15.7 (1972)|BG 15.7]]). You take in so many ways. Our position is to serve Kṛṣṇa, and by His pleasure, we shall be pleased. There are so many instances.

:''yathā taror mūla-niṣecanena''
:''tṛpyanti tat-skandha-bhujopaśākhāḥ''
:''prāṇopahārāc ca yathendriyāṇāṁ''
:''tathaiva sarvārhaṇam acyutejyā''
:([[Vanisource:SB 4.31.14|SB 4.31.14]])

Just like if you pour water in the root of the tree, the all the branches, twigs, flowers, leaves—everything becomes nourished automatically. Similarly, if you put foodstuff on the stomach, then all the ''indriyas'', all the different limbs and parts of the body, automatically become nourished.

Similarly, Kṛṣṇa is the origin of everything, root. ''Aham ādir hi devānām'' ([[Vanisource:BG 10.2 (1972)|BG 10.2]]). ''Ahaṁ sarvasya prabhavo mattaḥ sarvaṁ pravartate'' ([[Vanisource:BG 10.8 (1972)|BG 10.8]]). Therefore if we try to understand Kṛṣṇa, if we try to serve Kṛṣṇa, then our life will be successful. Otherwise not. That is not possible.

So this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement, we are preaching all over the world that Kṛṣṇa is the origin. The ''Vedānta'' says: "The Absolute Truth is that from whom everything is emanating," ''janmādy asya yataḥ'' ([[Vanisource:SB 1.1.1|SB 1.1.1]]), and it is accepted by everyone: "Kṛṣṇa is the Puruṣa, the original person." Brahmā says in his ''Brahmā-saṁhitā.'' Brahmā is supposed to be the original person within this universe. He accepts Kṛṣṇa: ''sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam'' (Bs. 5.1).

:''īśvaraḥ paramaḥ kṛṣṇaḥ''
:''sac-cid-ānanda-vigrahaḥ''
:''anādir ādir govindaḥ''
:''sarva-kāraṇa-kāraṇam''
:(Bs. 5.1)

So this Kṛṣṇa philosophy means to understand Kṛṣṇa as He is, without any interpretation. And if we actually understand Kṛṣṇa, then our life is successful. What is the mission of our life? The mission of life is to get out of the cycle of birth and death and old age and disease. That means to cease accepting material body one after another. That is going on.

We are wandering throughout the whole universe in different planets and different species of life. We are spirit soul. We don't require to accept this material body. But we have accepted it, somehow or other.

:''dehino 'smin yathā dehe''
:''kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā''
:''tathā dehāntara-prāptir'' . . .
:([[vanisource:BG 2.13 (1972)|BG 2.13]])

In this way, we are wandering throughout the whole universe. But if want to stop it, if we want to become again originally situated in our constitutional position, then we must understand ''Bhagavad-gītā'' as it is. We must try to understand Kṛṣṇa as He is. Then our life will be successful. ''Tyaktvā dehaṁ punar janma naiti mām eti kaunteya'' ([[vanisource:BG 4.9 (1972)|BG 4.9]]). Go back to home, go back to Godhead.