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<h2>Conversations and Morning Walks</h2>
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<h3>1967 Conversations and Morning Walks</h3>
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The first scene is that people passing on with saṅkīrtana movement as we have, as we usually do, very nice procession with mṛdaṅga, karatāla and that bugle, all people, just in the ordinary way. We have to make a nice procession. The second scene is that Kali, the personified Kali . . . a person should be decorated blackish. A blackish man with royal dress and very ugly features. And his queen, another ugly-featured girl or lady. So they are disturbed. They'll talk within themselves that, "There is saṅkīrtana movement now, and how we shall prosecute our business of this Kali-yuga?".
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[[Vanisource:670405-6 - Conversation on Lord Caitanya Play - San Francisco|670405-6 - Conversation on Lord Caitanya Play - San Francisco]]
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Prabhupāda: The first scene is that people passing on with saṅkīrtana movement as we have, as we usually do, very nice procession with mṛdaṅga, karatāla and that bugle, all people, just in the ordinary way. We have to make a nice procession.

The second scene is that Kali, the personified Kali . . . a person should be decorated blackish. A blackish man with royal dress and very ugly features. And his queen, another ugly-featured girl or lady. So they are disturbed. They'll talk within themselves that, "There is saṅkīrtana movement now, and how we shall prosecute our business of this Kali-yuga?"

There will be, in that scene, in some corner somebody is drinking. Two or three persons drinking. The scene will be like that. They are sitting in the central. In one corner somebody taking part in drinking, and another part somebody is illicitly talking of lust and love with woman. In another section there is slaughtering of a cow, and another section gambling. In this way that scene should be adjusted.

And in the middle, the ugly man, black man, and the ugly woman will talk that, "We are now in danger. The saṅkīrtana movement has been started. What to do?" In this way you have to finish that scene.

Hayagrīva: Now Kali is depicted as a male. As male?

Prabhupāda: As male, yes.

Hayagrīva: Because sometimes I know he's depicted as female.

Prabhupāda: Yes. Male, his feature black, and dressed like a king. Black means . . . black means ignorance. And similarly, the scene is also blackish.

Hayagrīva: Yes.

Prabhupāda: These things should be assorted. Then, it is mentioned there, exhibit illicit sex, slaughterhouse, intoxication, gambling. Then the third scene is very nice: rāsa dance.

Hayagrīva: Uh . . . this before this . . . I'm not going to make this, I don't believe, either Eastern or Western, but I think this can apply for the whole world that in the sense that the names may be Indian names, but I think the exhibition of the assembly of Kali and his consort Sin and the exhibition of illicit sex and slaughterhouse, this can all be . . . it can be some Western type prototype.

Prabhupāda: That may be. No, why should you . . . it may be sometimes misunderstood that Western people are only under the influence of Kali. Because the world is under the influence of Kali. Not that in your country only this intoxication, illicit sex. No. Everywhere it is.
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