Rāmeśvara: This is their argument, that the standard in America is that you become learned in different fields: science, music, art, literature. But in our Hare Kṛṣṇa movement we are isolating all these things and simply reading one set of literature—Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: And therefore our people cannot speak about art, music . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. We want to stop your nonsense. That is our mission. Those who are intelligent, they have taken. And you also take. It will take some time.
Rāmeśvara: Another big argument is regarding the children. They say that "You believe in free choice. So suppose the children grow up and they want to go to college. But you have not sent them to a public school; therefore they are not eligible for going to college."
Prabhupāda: No, it is . . . they are saved from becoming like you or hippies. You'll become hippie after going to the college. So they are saved. You'll become naked and you'll have, like cats and dogs, sex on the street. But these children are saved.
Rāmeśvara: But what if they change later on in their life?
Prabhupāda: They have become Kṛṣṇa conscious from the very beginning. That is the perfection of life. They are perfect from the very beginning of their life. And you are going to school, college; you are becoming most uncivilized, cats and dogs. So what is the value of this education? Phalena means result. Result is hippie. So what is the use of Western . . . stop all these colleges and universities. The sooner these are stopped, it is better for the human beings. We want to stop it. That is our . . .
Rāmeśvara: Of course, if we tell them that, then they will think that we are anarchists.