Prabhupāda: People are in darkness. To keep them like dogs, hogs, camels, and take vote from them and become a leader . . . Nobody protested that we call all the men dogs, hogs, camels. Nobody came forward, that "You are using very strong words." It's a fact.
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: They agree.
Hṛdayānanda: They were applauding your lecture last night.
Prabhupāda: Our Tamāla Kṛṣṇa appreciated very much.
Hṛdayānanda: Tamāla Kṛṣṇa?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I loved that lecture.
Hṛdayānanda: It was wonderful last night.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: I told Prabhupāda the lecture was like atom bomb.
Prabhupāda: Yes. He told like that. (chuckles)
Hṛdayānanda: Said the atheistic leaders are like animals, stronger animals.
Prabhupāda: Yes, big animal.
Hṛdayānanda: They especially liked your idea of American money and Indian culture.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hṛdayānanda: They applauded for that.
Prabhupāda: That is my mission. I am doing that. I am bringing money from America. Nobody's paying me. It is not joke. Ten lakhs of rupees, who brings?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: Even big export companies don't bring so much.
Prabhupāda: And they'll be glad. They have got money and they are getting culture. I am trying for United Nation. That is real attempt of United Nation, not this United Nation—all rogues and thieves and cheaters, barking dogs. I am trying for the United Nation. Help me. This is real United Nation. Samaḥ sarveṣu bhūteṣu mad-bhaktiṁ labhate parām (BG 18.54). It is United Nation. So I began this movement very humbly, loitering on the street of New York. Now it has come to this stage. Let us cooperate together nicely.
Hṛdayānanda: Your Bombay project is very impressive. We've just taken a tour.
Prabhupāda: Therefore I persistently took that place. Nobody encouraged me. He is all. (laughter) Nobody helped me. I hesitated little, that "If I am persistent to take it, they will not cooperate. It may be failure." So still I took it. And only fifty thousand and one lakh of rupees I gave this thief Nair: "All right, take it. Come on. Whatever I have got, you take it." Still he thought, "Oh. I'll get money."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He had already played the trick with one man.
Prabhupāda: Still, I took the risk, that "I have no money. If he cheats me, that's all right, but let me attempt."