Only the body is different. But they are thinking that, "If in the body of Indra I can have sex with Sacidevi, that is advancement." He does not think that the sex life with Sacidevi or the street dog, it is the same. There is no difference

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"Only the body is different. But they are thinking that, "If in the body of Indra I can have sex with Śacīdevi, that is advancement." (laughter) He does not think that the sex life with Śacīdevī or the street dog, it is the same. There is no difference"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1977 Conversations and Morning Walks

You'll find the fly is doing the same thing, and the dog is doing the same thing, and the human being is also doing the same thing, and the king of heaven, he is doing the same thing. The business is the same: punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). Only the body is different. But they are thinking that, "If in the body of Indra I can have sex with Śacīdevi, that is advancement." (laughter) He does not think that the sex life with Śacīdevī or the street dog, it is the same. There is no difference. And that is jāgarti. That is awakened. There is one word—where it is, I don't remember—maithunam agaram ajñāḥ. This is . . . this material life is a term of imprisonment, of imprisonment in sex. Just like imprisonment means you are detained in a place allotted by the government; you cannot go out. So here, this material world, the imprisonment is the sex. You cannot go out.

770108 - Conversation B - Bombay

He, spiritualist person, he knows that "What is the use of the sense gratification? The sense gratification is there in the cats and dogs. Why I am wasting in this way?" That is awakened. What is the difference? A man is having sex life in a very nice apartment, very decorated and nice cot. He is enjoying sex life that, "I am advanced civili . . ." And the dog is enjoying sex life on the street in presence of everyone. But the enjoyment of sex life is the same. There is no difference, either for the dog or for the man. So the spiritualistic man, he says that, "Why shall I waste my time in sex enjoyment? This is enjoyed by the dogs and cats. I have got this human form of life for spiritual advancement." So saṁyamī: "Stop this nonsense. Let me cultivate spiritual life." Saṁyamī. Saṁyamī means sense gratification stopped. That is saṁyamī. And he is not saṁyamī. Adānta-gobhir viśatāṁ tamisram (SB 7.5.30). Because he's not saṁyamī, his sense are uncontrolled, so he's opening the path of hellish condition of life. The business is the same—āhāra-nidrā-bhaya-maithunam—based on this maithuna, sex life. So you'll find the fly is doing the same thing, and the dog is doing the same thing, and the human being is also doing the same thing, and the king of heaven, he is doing the same thing. The business is the same: punaḥ punaś carvita-carvaṇānām (SB 7.5.30). Only the body is different. But they are thinking that, "If in the body of Indra I can have sex with Śacīdevi, that is advancement." (laughter) He does not think that the sex life with Śacīdevī or the street dog, it is the same. There is no difference. And that is jāgarti. That is awakened. There is one word—where it is, I don't remember—maithunam agaram ajñāḥ. This is . . . this material life is a term of imprisonment, of imprisonment in sex. Just like imprisonment means you are detained in a place allotted by the government; you cannot go out. So here, this material world, the imprisonment is the sex. You cannot go out.