Prabhupāda: Caitanya Mahāprabhu, He was so kind, but still there was distinction. When He was taking prasādam, personal associates, they were sitting with Him. Is it not? So this is called maryādā. Maryādā means "honor." That must . . . That varieties must be there. Otherwise we become Māyāvādīs—everything is equal, all one. This is Māyāvāda philosophy. No varieties. There must be variety. That is Vaiṣṇava philosophy. And as soon as you make it varietyless, all equal, that is Māyāvāda. Just see even in this flower. This is also flower and this is also flower. Does it mean they are of the same rank? This is understanding. Together they look very beautiful, but if you take separate value, then it is valuable than this flower. That distinction must be there. If somebody says, "I am accepting even the leaf in this garland," then what to speak of rose? It is like that. Kṛṣṇa says that. That does not mean leaf and rose have the same value. One is making a beautiful garland: I am accepting everything. Mixed together it looks very nice, but individually the leaf has value, the rose has value, the flower has value. Not that because they are put together they have equal value. This is Vaiṣṇava philosophy.
Kulādri: In a democracy they say everyone is . . .
Prabhupāda: Nonsense democracy. What is . . .? Don't talk of this nonsense talk. (laughter) Democracy, communism, still there are varieties. But you make a president. Let everyone become president.
Kulādri: That's what they've done, now the śūdras . . . (indistinct) . . ..
Prabhupāda: They have not done. Has everyone got the president's power? How do they say that you have done? Everyone equal? That is not possible. These are imagination. Mano-rathenasato dhāvato bahiḥ (SB 5.18.12). Everything is there in the Bhāgavatam. Harāv abhaktasya kuto mahad-guṇāḥ (SB 5.18.12). These rascals who are not Kṛṣṇa conscious, they have no value. They are simply speculating within the mind, mano-rathena, and they'll act all abominable, because they are on the mental platform. I'll say, "I think like this," you'll say, "I think like this." And nobody, none of us perfect. Then what is the use of your thinking like this or thinking like that? Both of them are imperfect. So if so many rascals sit together, or dogs, they simply bark, that's all. It has no value. So our propaganda is that "Don't remain in the dog platform. Come to the human platform." That is Kṛṣṇa consciousness. There you will get, "If we all dogs meet together and pass a resolution, then it will be organized." That is democracy. Democracy means like that. The dog is kept as dog, and they are assembled together to take their votes. What is the value of their vote? They are dogs. I've publicly said this. Where?
Devotees: Melbourne.
Prabhupāda: Melbourne. The United Nation is an assembly of barking dogs, I've said that, (laughs) and they published it.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: "His Divine Grace has come to hound us."
Devotee (2): There is a so-called spiritual master, Śrīla Prabhupāda, who is giving meditation courses to them.
Prabhupāda: That is another cheating. In meditation,whatever nonsense they are doing, you don't know, nobody knows. That's all. Bhava satrugna.(?) "If you become dumb, you have no enemy." Tāvac ca śobhate mūrkho yāvat kiñcin na bhāṣate. "A rascal is beautiful so long he does not speak." So better meditation; don't speak. Nobody will detect you. This is going on. If you speak, then you'll be detected what you are. And if you sleep by posing meditation, then nobody will ask, "What you are doing, nonsense?" This is meditation. Meditation is another cheating. That is Prahlāda Mahārāja has detected. Hmm? Find out this verse, Seventh Canto.
Hari-śauri: This Śrī Chinmoy is supposed to be this resident guru at the United Nations . . .
Prabhupāda: Whatever he may be, but we have got our own formula to understand.
Hari-śauri: He did a practical demonstration of what he said a person who is in touch with God can be capable of doing if he allows himself to become an instrument of God. So for eight months he painted continually, and he produced 27,000 paintings, and he said that this was proof that he was God-realized.
Prabhupāda: Mauna. The word begins with mauna.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Maunam, like in "silence." Mauna-vrata-śruta-tapo-adhyayana?
- mauna-vrata-sruta-tapo-'dhyayana-sva-dharma-
- vyākhya-raho-japa-samādhaya āpavargyaḥ
- prāyaḥ paraṁ puruṣa te tv ajitendriyānāṁ
- vārtā bhavanty uta na vātra tu dāmbhikānām
- (SB 7.9.46)
"O Supreme Personality of Godhead, there are ten prescribed methods on the path to liberation—to remain silent, not to speak to anyone, to observe vows, to amass all kinds of Vedic knowledge, to undergo austerities, to study the Vedas and other Vedic literatures, to execute the duties of varṇāśrama-dharma, to explain the śāstras, to stay in a solitary place, to chant mantras silently and to be absorbed in trance. These different methods for liberation are generally only a professional practice and means of livelihood . . ."
Prabhupāda: Means of livelihood.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: " . . .means of livelihood for those who have not conquered their senses. Because such persons are falsely proud, these procedures may not be successful."
Prabhupāda: You can get some prestigious position from another rascal, but that will not solve the problem.