Śyāmasundara: Jīva ātmā is also a person?
Prabhupāda: Yes. If not person, then why the difference? You may not agree with my opinion, but if we agree voluntarily, not that exactly what I think you think, but because you have accepted me as your guru, as superior, therefore we agree. You are individual; you may not agree. You are individual and I am individual, Kṛṣṇa is individual. That is stated, nityo nityānām. Plural number. There are many individual souls, but He is the Supreme Individual Person.
Śyāmasundara: This idea of a monad means that...
Prabhupāda: You call it by any name, but within the atom there is the force—that is Kṛṣṇa. You call it monad or something else.
Śyāmasundara: He says the lowest type of monad is in matter, material forms, and then it proceeds up through higher monads, which are souls.
Prabhupāda: So we directly say (indistinct) Kṛṣṇa, that is (indistinct) spiritual.
Śyāmasundara: He says that each monad has an inner or mental activity, a spiritual life.
Prabhupāda: That is explained in everything, that as soon as we say there is Kṛṣṇa, so there is everything.
Śyāmasundara: So even between the atoms of matter there is a spiritual life, spiritual force?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That force means spiritual force.
Śyāmasundara: He says that all bodies are ultimate quantums of force, that the essential nature of all bodies is force.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Force is the spirit soul. Without the spirit soul, the body has no force. It is a dead body.
Śyāmasundara: But just as there is a dead body of a man lying there, still there is force going on in that body. There are worms coming out...
Prabhupāda: But that individual soul, force, is not perfect. As Kṛṣṇa is within the atom, the body is combination of so many atoms, so therefore the force for creating another living entity is there.