Prabhupāda: Yes. Now He says aham. Aham is living entity. So living entity is the origin of everything.
Dr. Patel:
- ādityānām ahaṁ viṣṇur
- jyotiṣāṁ ravir aṁśumān
- marīcir marutām asmi
- nakṣatrāṇām ahaṁ śaśī
Prabhupāda: Yes. Now, this is also another nice thing, that the modern astronomers, they say that all these stars are sun, sun. Do they not?
Dr. Patel: Yes.
Prabhupāda: But just like Kṛṣṇa says, "They are just like moon." Just see. Nakṣatrāṇām ahaṁ śaśi. So śaśi means the moon. Moon is like one of the stars. So if you say the stars are sūrya, then there is contradiction. How the moon and the sun can be equal? But actually, that is not. According to our Vedic astronomy, there is one sun only in one universe, although there are millions of universes, we cannot count. So there are millions of suns. That is another thing. But within the universe there is only one sun, and by the brilliance of sunshine, all these stars and moons are glittering. Just like moon shining, being reflected by the sun, similarly, all the stars they are glittering, being reflected by the sun, not that all of them are different suns. This theory is refuted.
Dr. Patel:
- vedānāṁ sāma-vedo 'smi
- devānām asmi vāsavaḥ
- indriyāṇāṁ manaś cāsmi
- bhūtānām asmi cetanā
Prabhupāda: The Sāma-vedas mean the realization of God by singing, by music. That is Sāma-veda.
Dr. Patel: By music. I am the soul of the music.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore hari-kīrtana. Hari-kīrtana is Sāma-veda, glorifying the supreme. That is stated in some other place. Yam brahma-varunendra-rudraḥ stunvanti divyaiḥ stavair vedaiḥ sanga-pada-kramopa...
Dr. Patel: Kramopanisadair gayanti yam samagaḥ.
Prabhupāda: Gayanti. So gayanti, chanting, is following the Sāma-veda, and Sāma-veda, Kṛṣṇa says, "I am especially Sāma-veda."
Dr. Patel: Devānām asmi vāsavaḥ, indriyāṇāṁ manaś cāsmi bhūtānām asmi cetanā. "I am the..." Cetanā means...?
Prabhupāda: Life. Knowledge, knowledge.
Dr. Patel:
- rudrāṇāṁ śaṅkaraś cāsmi
- vitteśo yakṣa-rakṣasām
- vasūnāṁ pāvakaś cāsmi
- meruḥ śikhariṇām aham
- purodhasāṁ ca mukhyaṁ māṁ
- viddhi pārtha bṛhaspatim
- senānīnām ahaṁ skandaḥ
- sarasām asmi sāgaraḥ
Prabhupāda: Skanda means Karttikeya.
Dr. Patel: Yes. Karttikeya. Maharṣīṇāṁ bhṛgur ahaṁ girām asmy ekam akṣaram. "I am oṁ."
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Yajñānāṁ japa-yajño 'smi. (laughs)
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yajñaiḥ saṅkīrtanaiḥ prayair yajanti hi sumedhasaḥ (SB 11.5.32). This is there. Japa-yoga, Hare Kṛṣṇa, this is the first-class...