Prabhupāda: What is hundreds of miles? It is . . . forty billion? What is that?
Paramahaṁsa: Four billion.
Prabhupāda: Four billion. So how they can calculate?
Paramahaṁsa: If they took a photograph of the earth planet from up in space, they would probably also say there is no life.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Devotee (3): They say because the atmosphere is not like this planet, others cannot live there.
Prabhupāda: Why not atmosphere? The moon planet, there is a planet. There is space. There is surface. There is dust. So why not atmosphere the same? It is made of the same ingredients: earth, water, fire. Why do you say that is not same atmosphere?
Devotee (3): They are saying that it's too cold or too hot.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. That is here also. There are many cold places. Do they think that in the cold places there is no life? All nonsense. And only nonsense will believe them. I never believed it. Why? Here we see underneath this sand there is life. The crabs, what is called?
Paramahaṁsa: Yes, crabs.
Prabhupāda: They live within, so many hundreds of thousands. We have seen on the sand . . . (indistinct) . . .
Manasvī: There are polar bears for cold season, for living in mounds of snows and all.
Prabhupāda: There are birds, some birds.
Devotee: Snowbird.
Paramahaṁsa: Penguins.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Penguins birds. There is life.
Bali-mardana: Seals, whales, polar bears . . .
Prabhupāda: There is life everywhere. Bhagavad-gītā says sarva-gaḥ. The life is there everywhere. And moon planet, according to our Vedic literature, that is one of the demigods' place. People live there daiva age, ten thousand years.
Devotee (3): They will not believe in the demigods . . .
Prabhupāda: I will not believe them. That's all. Finished. (laughter)
Devotee (3): They cannot see them.
Prabhupāda: What can you see, teeny eyes? What can you see? Can you see what is there on the other side of the sea? That does it mean there is nothing? Your nonsense seeing. Why you are believing of seeing? Your seeing power is very, very limited. Why do you believe in seeing? That is childish, "I cannot see." What you can see? First of all, let us consider this point. You cannot see anything.
Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, people will be very surprised to find out that the moon is farther away from us than the sun when they read your . . . when they read Fifth Canto.
Prabhupāda: But at least, they could not go there. Otherwise, why they are giving up this job? They could not go there. That's a fact. Their plan was to . . . They were selling land even, on the moon planet.
Ambarīṣa: Selling land on the moon?
Prabhupāda: Yes. (laughter)
Śrutakīrti: They were selling airline tickets also.
Prabhupāda: Ah, yes. (laughter) Just see, route. Pan American, yes. They sold so many tickets. Such fools there are.
Bali-mardana: In New York sometimes people sell new immigrants the Brooklyn Bridge.
Prabhupāda: And Moscow Sea. They, I mean to say, pitched one flag in the moon planet and named Moscow Sea. Yes.
Indian man: Just like you said that this moon and other planets are also made of these five elements—earth, water, fire, ether—they brought a rock from there. So they are accepting that the moon is made of those elements also, but they are not accepting that life is there.
Prabhupāda: No, they'll not accept. Therefore . . . Therefore fools. Why? The circumstance is the same. Why there should be no life? That is foolishness. We have got experience, as soon as there is water, there is life. As soon as there is land, there is life. As soon as there is air, there is life. So where is life? No life.
Devotee (3): They may agree in undeveloped species, but as far as higher forms of life, they will not agree, such as humans or demigods.
Prabhupāda: No, that also we cannot agree. If there are lower species, there must be higher species. As we see here is dog also, man also, higher species, lower species, why not there? They can talk all nonsense, but a nonsense will believe. No sane man will believe. (break) . . . to meet in the space?
Ambarīṣa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: What is the idea?
Ambarīṣa: It's a diplomatic move. They feel it will make friendly relationships between the two countries.