Haṁsadūta: She says she has heard that in the universities in America it is being taught about Kṛṣṇa consciousness. In some of the universities Kṛṣṇa consciousness is being taught.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Girl: It's a beginning.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Just like Temple University, they have got this Nectar of Devotion. And many universities, they are studying Kṛṣṇa book, Bhāgavatam. They are gradually accepting. At least the professors, teaching staff, they are accepting. They are studying as one side of views, not seriously.
Girl: (German)
Haṁsadūta: They speculate still.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Girl: (German)
Haṁsadūta: She says it appears that one has to become again as a child.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Haṁsadūta: She means . . . she says that it appears to understand this teaching one has to become again as a child.
Prabhupāda: Yes. If he does not forget what he has learned, then it will be difficult.
Girl: (German)
Haṁsadūta: She says . . . she asks whether it will come to a fight with the demons and the devotees like Arjuna, or is this question—in the future, she means—or is this question not important?
Prabhupāda: The fight is already going on. You cannot stop fighting.
Girl: (German) We must chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Girl: We must chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is the simplest way. That is the simplest way. If one sincerely chants Hare Kṛṣṇa, he becomes enlightened.
Girl: (German)
Haṁsadūta: She says this is the main thing that Lord Caitanya has given the people in this age—a simple process to approach God.
Prabhupāda: Yes, the highest perfection, to reach the highest perfection. That is Caitanya Mahāprabhu's special gift.
Girl: (German)
Haṁsadūta: She has a conclusive question. She asks what can we do to help the, (German), the whole movement to continue to expand.
Prabhupāda: What help?
Haṁsadūta: What . . . what she can do.
Prabhupāda: Yes, yes. Your, this Western countrymen, they are intelligent. So intelligently enlighten them. By intelligent statements, make a peaceful revolution.
Haṁsadūta: Right. Yeah. Okay?
Prabhupāda: As these boys are changing their habits and their ideas, so similarly, it can be done to the mass of people.
Haṁsadūta: (to girl) Is that all right?
Girl: Ja.
Prabhupāda: Jaya. (aside:) Stop that also. (break) . . . kṛpana bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ. Yan maithunādi-gṛhamedhi-sukhaṁ hi tuccham (SB 7.9.45). This gṛhastha life is a concession for sex life. Otherwise, there is no need of gṛhastha life. But everything can be used to make the best use of a bad bargain. That is another thing. Actually, to become free from all responsibility and anxieties, if one remains a brahmacārī, that is very good. That is the recommendation of śāstra. But if you cannot . . . because the material world is going on under sex impulse. By nature the sex impulse is there. He will agitate you. But if you can control by becoming a rigid brahmacārī, that is better. But it is difficult. Therefore this concession is given. But what is this concession? The concession is sex life. That's all. Yan maithunādi-gṛhamedhi sukhaṁ hi tuccham kaṇḍūyanena karayor iva duḥkha-duḥkham. It is an itching sensation. And after satisfying the itching sensation, there are so many responsibilities and troubles. But tṛpyanti neha kṛpanāḥ. Those who are kṛpanāḥ, does not know how to utilize this life . . .
So once I have taken to sex life, and I am suffering so many after . . . of course, now to stop the suffering, they have invented this contraceptive method. He knows there is suffering, but they, in order to avoid this suffering, they're taking this contraceptive method. And that is also suffering. That he does not know. Bhrun hatyā. Contraceptive method means killing the embryo. So that is also another sinful. He's taking so much responsibilities. So either you take contraceptive method or do not take contraceptive method . . . if you do not take, then the child is born; then you have to take responsibility. Now they're killing the child, in this way becoming implicated. But if one is trained up to remain a rigid brahmacārī, there is no trouble. Therefore it is said:
- tṛpyanti neha kṛpanā bahu-duḥkha-bhājaḥ
- kaṇḍutivān manasi yaḥ viṣayeta dhīraḥ
- (SB 7.9.45)
I know if I satisfy this itching sensation, I'll be put into so much trouble after it, so if one is dhīra, little sober, he'll better suffer this itching sensation than to take the responsibility. This is the śāstric injunction.