Indian man (5): The thing is I should see.
Prabhupāda: But you must be qualified to know.
Indian man (5): How?
Prabhupāda: That I have already explained, that you must become . . . tad viddhi praṇipātena paripraśnena sevayā (BG 4.34). You must approach to a person who knows, by surrender, not by challenge. You cannot know about soul and God by this challenging spirit.
You have to become a submissive. Submissive. You have to accept a spiritual master who knows. Then you'll know. It is not that in a meeting by challenging, you can know. No. That is not possible.
Indian man (5): How to get that master who knows?
Prabhupāda: That you have to search out. If you are fortunate, you'll get.
Indian man (6): In Bhagavad-gītā . . . (break)
Prabhupāda: . . . dvaita-advaita, that we have explained.
Indian man (6): Dvaita-advaita, yes?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Dvaita and advaita. Just like this finger is . . . is my finger. So it is part of this body. So you can, you can say: "This finger is also body." But at the same time, the finger is not the body. Is it clear? You cannot say: "This finger the whole body."
But at the same time, you can say: "Yes, finger is body." If you say: "This is my body," there is no wrong, because finger is also part of the body. But if you say that, "The finger is body," that is also wrong. This is dvaita-advaita. It is simultaneously one and different.
Similarly, the soul and the Supreme Lord, equal in quality. Kṛṣṇa says mamaivāṁśa. The small particle of gold is gold. That is advaita. You cannot say, because it is small particle of gold, you cannot say: "It is iron." It is gold. That is advaita. But the gold mine and the gold earring, there is difference. You cannot say the gold earring is as good as the gold mine. That is dvaita.