Prabhupāda: In future you can do everything, but at the end it is failure.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yes. The chemical composition of the egg can be synthesized.
Prabhupāda: That's all right. I say that you do it, and make it egg-shaped, and now we have incu . . . what is called? Incubator?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Incubation.
Prabhupāda: Incubation, and get. Why take the egg from the chicken?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: They can make the chemicals, but life cannot come out of that.
Prabhupāda: Then why do you say that life comes from chemicals? Why do you make this false propaganda? That is our protest. You cannot do it, and still you make false propaganda.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In principle . . . last month in December, this Khorana . . . he's from MIT, the Indian who got Nobel Prize about few years ago. He's one of the big scientists in this, called, molecular biology. Actually he synthesized this code gene, one of the small fragments of . . . they're called DNA molecule. It's supposed to be the . . . (indistinct) . . . molecule for all living systems. So the promise was about ten years ago . . .
Prabhupāda: Again promise. That promise we don't want.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: No, the promise was about ten years ago that once they synthesized this gene, complete synthesis, then they'll be able to make life . . .
Prabhupāda: "They will be." Again promise.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: . . . in the test tube. But it's not working. They have synthesized now.
Prabhupāda: Then why do you talk nonsense if it is not working? Therefore you are nonsense.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: So actually it is good that we have come to a point now even in science that their promises are all going to go wrong.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That we want to prove. That is our propaganda. Therefore we have engaged you. Prove that they are all rascals. They are giving false promise.
Yogeśvara: But then they will say: "We have produced so many successes also."
Prabhupāda: What is nonsense success? We don't take that success!
Yogeśvara: Well, we have polio vaccine, we have aspirin.
Prabhupāda: I am so successful that I am going to die tomorrow. I am so successful.
Hari-śauri: Aspirin won't save you from death.
Prabhupāda: Mother asked . . . mother Durgā asked the devotee—because Durgā comes every year—asked the devotee, "My dear son, you are happy?" "Yes, mother, very happy." "So there is no complaint?" "Only two complaint." "What is that?" "There is no food and there is no cloth. Otherwise we are very happy." (laughs) (laughter) Two difficulties, no food, no cloth. That's all. These rascals are like that. Everything advanced, but when the question of death, "Oh, that . . ." Einstein also died.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: In open discussion they come around to this point, that they're lacking some fundamental knowledge.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that we have to prove. Therefore I am teasing you. Prove that they are passing on as very intelligent, very advanced, but all rascals. Let them admit that, "We are rascals, without God consciousness." That is my propaganda. (break) Let them understand that without God consciousness they are rascals. And why the rascals should pass on as very intelligent in the rascal society? Śva-viḍ-varāhoṣṭra-kharaiḥ saṁstutaḥ puruṣaḥ paśuḥ (SB 2.3.19). He's rascal, and some other small rascals, they are praising, "Oh, you are so great. You are so great."
Yogeśvara: They may challenge us also.
Prabhupāda: What is that challenge?
Yogeśvara: That "What is your solution to hunger? We are feeding people because we have produced ways of making crops grow faster."
Prabhupāda: What you are feeding? Then why do you complain against me? If you are feeding, that is no challenge to me. You are rascal! You cannot do it; you are challenging me. This is the answer. If you are actually feeding, then where is challenge to me? You do not know how to answer.
Yogeśvara: Well, we are also feeding them meat, but you object to that.