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Who says India is starving? You are saying. I'm Indian, I don't starve. You are false propaganda

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"Who says India is starving? You are saying. I'm Indian, I don't starve. You are false propaganda"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

Who says India is starving? You are saying. I'm Indian, I don't starve. You are false propaganda, India's starving.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Why would someone who is not Kṛṣṇa conscious have one hundred children? For example, why would someone like Dhṛtarāṣṭra, who is not particularly Kṛṣṇa conscious . . .?

Prabhupāda: Oh, he was Kṛṣṇa conscious. In those days everyone was Kṛṣṇa conscious. (break)

Śukadeva: There's only a certain amount of grain. There's only a certain amount of water. So . . .

Prabhupāda: Hmm?

Śukadeva: There's some theories where they think that there's only a certain amount of grains . . .

Prabhupāda: Their theories we don't accept. There's so much water.

Śukadeva: But, therefore, if they don't . . . if you don't work to conserve it, then everyone will starve.

Prabhupāda: First of all you produce it, then conserve. These rascals, do they produce water?

Śukadeva: No.

Prabhupāda: Why he's anxious to conserve it? It is not his production. That is rascaldom. Hah? He has taken from some other sources, and he wants to conserve it. He does not think that "I did not produce it. It has come to me."

Hari-śauri: Well, they don't know how it's produced. So what's there they're gonna have to save, because they're not certain that there'll be any more supply.

Prabhupāda: No. The sense is that if I'm not produced, then even if I conserve, the proper . . . the supply may be stopped. Because it is . . . there is no control over, of me. Suppose you have got some water. How long it will be conserved? Hah? The water supply is stopped. Now suppose it's the ocean. There's enough water, but if Kṛṣṇa desires, it will be dried up. Then, where you will get water? So what is the meaning of their conserving?

Devotee (1): Right.

Prabhupāda: Enormous. Why should we bother about conserving? We should be Kṛṣṇa conscious. That is our business. The child is born, immediately there is milk in the breasts of the mother. And one minute before, there is no milk. There is no milk. Just the child is born—immediately milk. Who supplies the milk? He does not see that eko bahūnāṁ yo vidadhāti kāmān (Kaṭha Upaniṣad 2.2.13), that one Supreme is supplying all the necessities of the others. So our duty is only to become Kṛṣṇa conscious. Other things will be supplied by Kṛṣṇa.

Śukadeva: The example that if God is supplying, then why doesn't He supply the underprivileged countries? Just like in some places like India people are starving. So why doesn't He supply places like that?

Prabhupāda: Who says India is starving? You are saying. I'm Indian, I don't starve. You are false propaganda, "India's starving."

Śukadeva: Bangladesh they . . .

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: I was in Bangladesh also; they're not starving.

Prabhupāda: Nobody is starving. This is all propaganda. This propaganda . . . you know in your country there are so many foundations. There is so many false organizations. They, under the name of India, they draw the money and take it. I've seen it. They have got arrangement with the trustees of the fund, and with some propaganda they draw money, and then they divide, the trustees and the organization. That's all. I've seen.

Śukadeva: Places like Africa, such as Biafra, where they have . . .

Prabhupāda: There are countries, there is, they are not opulent or affluent as you are. But that doesn't mean they're starving.

Hari-śauri: Well, they show so many cases of children with malnutrition, and they say that so many thousands of people are dying every week in certain areas . . .

Prabhupāda: You have got your . . . so many hippies are malnutrition. They have got enough food; why they are malnutrition? What is this? Another . . .

Hari-śauri: That's not actually a very good argument of theirs anyway, because here in America they were found to be dumping excess grains in the ocean, excess milk they give to the pig farms, like that.

Prabhupāda: Mismanagement. This . . . of course nature's way, sometimes something is produced in large quantity, sometimes less quantity. Therefore the arrangement should be where there is less quantity, the large country with production should be distributed. But they'll throw into the ocean. Still, they will not supply to the country where there is less production.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It would seem that if money was not the means of exchange, this would not go on. Because then they would trade even excess food for other things that they required.

Devotee (3): They simply limit the supply so they can sell things for higher prices.

Prabhupāda: No, here the American policy, the Western policy, that if the people get easily food, they'll not come to work in the industry. That is their policy. If they get cheap food, then they won't work. That is human nature.

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That is very interesting.

Prabhupāda: Hah?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That's very interesting.

Prabhupāda: Yes. So they want to keep them starving or in want, so they'll come and produce and make the capitalists rich. This is the system. (break) . . . idea, but . . .

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: It's conspiracy.

Prabhupāda: I think in here, in Hawaii, they set fire to the huts, cottages. They are living in cottages; the government set fire so that they may be without home and come to work. Do you know that? Yes? You know that?

Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: No.

Prabhupāda: In Hawaii?

Devotee (1): They simply let people live in these buildings, boxes. They don't want to let people live on the land.

Devotee (2): When the government comes, they may have so many health rules and regulations that if someone has a little hut, they will not let them stay there.

Prabhupāda: Yes. They set fire. They set fire. "Let them become without home, then they will work for my shop."

Śukadeva: There were so many mangoes here that were dropping to the ground, and they've gotten rid of some of the mango trees because they said that the people were stopping on the side of the road picking up the mangoes, it was causing a traffic hazard.

Prabhupāda: Causing what is that?

Śukadeva: They were causing traffic disturbance. So therefore they took away all the mango trees. There were much more mango trees in Hawaii than there are now. Anyone could go and take mangoes off the ground.

Prabhupāda: They don't want natural living.

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