So the Vedic literatures, one cannot say that it is concocted—one reference is there, one reference is another Purāṇa. Sometimes there are some rascal philosophers, they say that Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam has been compiled by . . . for, I mean to say, eulogizing Kṛṣṇa, who was the son of a leader. Like that. But you cannot do that, because the reference is there, very old Purāṇas. Some rascal philosopher says Bhāgavata was compiled recently. So how it is the reference should be in the Purāṇas?
So this rascaldom has spoiled the whole Vedic culture, the so-called westernized scholars, because the real purpose was that the rulers, they did not want to present Indian culture as very old, because then their Darwin's theory will be spoiled. That was their nonsense proposition, that they are proposing that human brain is being developed, but if they accept that millions of years ago the brain was already there, then their rascal theory of Darwin will be spoiled.
So actual fact is this, that this verse . . . Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam was compiled five thousand years ago. Not that Vyāsadeva manufactured something. All Vedic literature were existing. Vyāsadeva only . . . just like I am presenting. I am presenting the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement. It is not it is manufactured by me, it is concocted by me, that I have introduced. Just like so many things are there, these samāj, that samāj, this samāj.
We are not like that. As Kṛṣṇa is old, so this Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is also old. It is as old as Kṛṣṇa, and Kṛṣṇa says that, "Forty millions of years ago I spoke this Bhagavad-gītā to sun god." So where is the history? Where does your history stand? Your history cannot give chronological table more than three thousand years.
So Vedic culture is very old, it is not a concocted thing or a new pattern. It is eternal; therefore it is called sanātana. Sanātana means eternal. It has no beginning, no end. Sanātana. So Vedic culture means sanātana, eternal. Kṛṣṇa is eternal; we living entities, we are eternal; and our relationship and exchange of loving service with Kṛṣṇa is also eternal.
Kṛṣṇa is eternal, we are eternal, and our dealings with Kṛṣṇa is also eternal, but sometimes it becomes interrupted by this māyā, which is called svapna. Svapna means dream life. As dream has no fact—it is all hallucination—similarly, our detachment from Kṛṣṇa is also an hallucination. Actually there is no detachment. And when we are covered by this hallucination, just like in dream we cry, "Oh, here is a tiger! Here is a tiger!" "Tiger? Where is tiger?" Similarly, this forgetfulness of Kṛṣṇa is like that.