Guest: The Holy Bible is written by the Holy Spirit of mankind. Should we believe on the Bible or not?
Prabhupāda: But so far I know, that the man who wrote, he wrote with . . . on revelation.
Guest: The Holy Spirit.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore you should read. That . . . just try to understand. If somebody, ordinary man, writes a book, he'll write book on his own experience. Therefore he's a . . . because he is imperfect, because his senses are imperfect, he has got a cheating propensity, he is sure to commit mistake and he's sure to be illusioned.
His position being such, he cannot give us any perfect knowledge. Because he's imperfect by constitution. Every man will commit mistake. Every man will be illusioned. Just like every one of us illusioned. I am not this body, but I'm thinking I'm this body. And the whole activity of my life is based on this body. So therefore whole thing is mistake, illusion.
Similarly, a conditioned soul, anyone, he has got a propensity to cheat. Everyone wants to be very intelligent. How? By cheating others. He thinks, "Oh, I have cheated that man. I am very intelligent." This propensity every one of us we have got. Therefore he has got a cheating propensity. And over all, the senses by which he's acquiring knowledge by speculating, that is imperfect.
Guest: The body is Krish-na. Krish-na (indistinct), Christ. Body of Christ, the whole spirit.
Prabhupāda: Body of Christ is not ordinary body. That is spiritual body. Kṛṣṇa . . . as Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā, yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati bhārata (BG 4.7):
- paritrāṇāya sādhūnāṁ
- vināśāya ca duṣkṛtām
- dharma-saṁsthāpanārthāya
- (sambhavāmi) yuge yuge
- (BG 4.8)
- sambhavāmy ātma-māyayā
- (BG 4.6)
So this is a very subtle point. One has to understand that when God comes or God's son comes or God's representative comes, they do not accept a body like us. They have their spiritual body.
Guest: "Kṛṣṇa" means Christ. He's the whole spirit. We are in the body of man. That is the body of God.
Prabhupāda: The body of man is not exactly body of God. There is no difference between the body and soul of God, because it is spiritual. The soul is spiritual, the body is spiritual. Just like if you have got your golden body and golden soul, there is no difference between the soul and body. But in our case, we, as we are, we are spirit soul, but this body is material; therefore I am different from this body. But when you are liberated, we get spiritual body. Similar . . . at that time, as Kṛṣṇa has no difference between His body and soul, similarly, we also have no difference between body and soul.
But at the present moment we have got difference with the body and soul. Therefore as soon as the soul goes away from this body, the body being matter, "Dust thou art, dust thou . . ." It mixes with the matter. The soul takes another body. The whole problem is that we have to stop this repetition of migration from one material body to another material body. That is the highest perfection of life.