Guest (2): We understand now what you mean: submissiveness.
Haṁsadūta: So that same thing is there if you want to learn from a spiritual master, that you come with an attitude of submission and prepared to follow the instruction. But if you think, "Well, if I like the instruction, I may follow. And if I don't like, then let him go to hell," then what is the use of inquiry?
Guest (2): No, no, no. We don't want Prabhupāda . . .
Guest (1): That is not the idea. Submissiveness is the only lesson of Gītā.
Haṁsadūta: That is the only lesson. "You just give up all . . ."
Prabhupāda: No, we cannot hear any more. That is the only lesson. That is the only example.
Haṁsadūta: That is the only lesson. Kṛṣṇa says: "Give up all forms of religiousness and just surrender unto Me."
Guest (2): You are taking one śloka. You can interpret . . .
Haṁsadūta: Any śloka. Any śloka.
Prabhupāda: Neither you can give up this śloka. You cannot give up this śloka. Yes.
So first of all you answer. See practical example. When Arjuna became confused, he said, śiṣyas te 'haṁ śādhi māṁ prapannam (BG 2.7): "Now I am surrendered unto You. Please teach me." Unless you come to that point, there will be no teaching, and there is no use of teaching.
Guest (7): What time and what energy . . .
Prabhupāda: That you have to see. You have to see. You have to see your time, when you are prepared to surrender. When you are prepared to surrender, as Kṛṣṇa . . . Arjuna said that, "I am now confused and I surrender unto You." If you think that you are not confused, you cannot surrender, then there is no question of teaching.
Guest (2): Surrender is the first condition. "You must surrender" is the first condition.
Haṁsadūta: Yes.