Prabhupāda: The human well-being means if you don't agree to me, I cut your throat, that's all. This is (indistinct). I am thinking in my way: human well being. Just like Stalin, he was thinking in his own way, human well-being, but anyone who disagrees with him, cut his throat. This is (indistinct). Lenin also (indistinct) like that.
Śyāmasundara: Well-being is relative.
Prabhupāda: Just like he killed all the royal family. So this killing, they will say it is well-being of the (indistinct). So this is not well-being for the royal family. But they theorized, it is well-being.
Śyāmasundara: So they say the well-being for the most people. If something has to be sacrificed for that then it is all right.
Prabhupāda: So that everyone thinks. Everyone says, but these are also incorrect propositions. So far Russia is concerned, we have seen practically, these things are not being applied. Like, at least we have seen, that in Moscow, all big, big buildings, they are not recent buildings, they are old, damaged buildings, and (indistinct). So that means their economic condition is not so sound. The old buildings are not very nicely renovated. So what is that building we we are going inside, getting out from the National Hotel? There was a big building, some historical building?
Śyāmasundara: Kremlin?
Prabhupāda: Library or something?
Śyāmasundara: Lenin's... Oh, the one with the round turret?
Prabhupāda: No, no, just like our hotel was there, and (indistinct) after a few steps there was a big building.
Śyāmasundara: Oh, the state planning?
Prabhupāda: Maybe.
Śyāmasundara: State planning commision.
Prabhupāda: That is a very old building; that is not recent building. So similarly all the buildings (indistinct), they are not recent buildings.
Śyāmasundara: The only fairly recent building was the university. It has a big, big, big, big building.
Prabhupāda: Ha, ha, that may be, that was not very...
Śyāmasundara: Not very new.
Prabhupāda: (indistinct) not very huge. That is not very extraordinary.
Śyāmasundara: Not compared to New York City.
Prabhupāda: No, not...
Śyāmasundara: Their idea is that well-being is measured by how many telephones there are, how many refigerators, how many...
Prabhupāda: That they haven't got. There is no sufficient motor car. He knows when we asked Professor Kotovsky for call taxi. He said, "Oh this is Moscow, it is very,difficult." Do you remember that?
Śyāmasundara: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Do you remember? He gave us direction: "If you kindly go in this way, in this way..."
Śyāmasundara: Take the bus.
Prabhupāda: Not if you can reach sooner, (indistinct) waiting for taxi. Do you remember?
Śyāmasundara: Yes, I remember.
Prabhupāda: And we did it. We walked too. He gave us direction, "You go in this way, this way, then you will go to your hotel sooner than we wait for a taxi." So, either there is no sufficient taxi, (indistinct) company, they do not get profit, or there is no sufficient demand. People have no sufficient income. That is the... In your country as soon as you want a taxi, you get it. Simply call, "I want a taxi." The same thing India, immediately taxi is (indistinct) go. In Boston I was calling, "Simply send taxi." You have seen? You know better than me, that there is telephone in the taxi.