Prabhupāda: It is all the Sanskrit. What difficulty you are feeling?
Allen Ginsberg: I don't feel too much difficulty, except aesthetically I do feel a difficulty. Yes, there is. The difficulty I feel is that there should be some flower of the American language to communicate in, rather than . . .
Prabhupāda: Therefore we are seeking your help.
Allen Ginsberg: Yeah. Well, I haven't found a way; I still just stay chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Therefore why I have come to you? That is also my view. I have come to America with this view, that America is on the summit of material civilization. They are not poverty-stricken. You see? And they are seeking after something. Therefore I have come that, "You take this, you'll be happy." That is my mission.
And if the Americans take, then all other countries will take, because America is leading at the present moment. So persons, exalted persons like you, you try to understand. What is the difficulty? There is no difficulty. Chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa, anyone can chant. Even the child is trying. There is no difficulty. And so far what is our modes of living?
Allen Ginsberg: Mere chanting without the practice of a philosophy and a daily ritual . . .
Prabhupāda: Philosophy is there. We are teaching Bhagavad-gītā. We are talking on Bhāgavata philosophy, we are touching on Caitanya's philosophy.
Allen Ginsberg: And you have a daily ritual.
Prabhupāda: We are distributing papers. And . . . everything is there.
Allen Ginsberg: Okay. So my question, then, as it was originally when you first asked me, what do I think . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Allen Ginsberg: Is the Caitanya-Kṛṣṇa ritual, as you have it here in this house and in the other āśramas, is that something that a large mass of people can enter into?
Prabhupāda: Yes. Why not?
Allen Ginsberg: In America.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Because we have seen. All my students are Americans. So it has to be . . . and it is spreading.
Allen Ginsberg: Yes, but what it requires is a adaptation of Indian dress and a adaptation . . .
Prabhupāda: That is not very important.
Allen Ginsberg: And an adaptation to Indian food.
Prabhupāda: No, no. Indian food . . . it is not Indian food. Are you not eating fruits?
Allen Ginsberg: Yes, yes.
Prabhupāda: Then that is Indian food? Do you mean to say it is Indian food?
Allen Ginsberg: Well, the curries.
Prabhupāda: Curries you may boil only. That doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that you have to take our taste. No. That is not the program, that to become Kṛṣṇa conscious you have to change your taste. No. We say from the Bhagavad-gītā . . . Kṛṣṇa says, patraṁ puṣpaṁ phalaṁ toyaṁ yo me bhaktyā prayacchati (BG 9.26) "Anyone who is offering Me with devotion these vegetable, fruits, flowers, milk, I accept them." But we are going to satisfy Kṛṣṇa. Therefore we are selecting foodstuff from this group. That you are all already accepting. Don't you take vegetables? Don't you take fruits? Don't you take grains? So where is the new item? Now, so far cooking, you can cook in your own taste. But the group must be this. Not meat. Because Kṛṣṇa does not say. That is our program. So you are already taking grains, you are eating fruits, you are eating . . . drinking milk. So where is the difference? I don't find any difference.