Prabhupāda: But if you. . . then you are also moving. Everything is moving because you are on the earth. When the train moves, everything moves. But how it moves, train? That you have to search out. Train is not automatically moving. Some power, engine, is moving it. That is blind vision, that "Train is moving." How the train is moving? You have to see. That is childish. Train is not moving. The engine is moving the train. And how the engine is moving? The coal, fire, is moving. Then wherefrom the coal come? In this way, you have to search out. You'll find, ultimately, the supreme cause is Kṛṣṇa. Nothing is moving without Kṛṣṇa's indication. That is the explanation. Mayādhyakṣeṇa (BG 9.10): "Under My superintendence . . ." When Kṛṣṇa desires, this big, big chunk will move in the air. Recently, Madhudviṣa Mahārāja said, the buses were flying in the sky.
Brahmānanda: Buses?
Prabhupāda: Yes. In Darwin.
Devotees: Oh, in that, that cyclone, cyclone . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. And whole city smashed.
Madhudviṣa: No more saṅkīrtana.
Rāmeśvara: They don't know how to search beyond the microscopic level, microscope level. They think that the atoms have their own energy. They don't know the process of searching . . .
Prabhupāda: The energy is: Kṛṣṇa is there. Aṇḍāntara-stha-paramāṇu-cayāntara-stham (Bs. 5.35). The asura's business is to avoid Kṛṣṇa. That is their business. And our business is to establish everywhere Kṛṣṇa. That is the difference between them and ourself.
Rāmeśvara: There is one theory that even the atoms have intelligence, because the way they combine together to form larger molecules . . .
Prabhupāda: That means that is Kṛṣṇa's intelligence. They do not see Kṛṣṇa. (pause) Try to understand the whole philosophy, because you have to preach and you have to confront so many atheist rascals.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: These scientists need guru.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: The scientists need guru.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They never even think of these things.
Prabhupāda: When they are captured and cornered, they say, "Yes, we are trying. In future we shall do." Post-dated check. "You take this check. In future it will be paid." Who will accept that check?
Rāmeśvara: To that, they always say that in the past, man laughed at some scientific theories, and later they were proven . . .
Prabhupāda: It is not scientific. It is all rascaldom. What you are giving, that is not science, that is rascaldom. Why shall I accept it is scientific? Because you have no full knowledge. What you are giving, it is simply rascaldom.