Tamāla Kṛṣṇa:
- kṛṣi-gorakṣya-vāṇijyaṁ
- vaiśya-karma svabhāva-jam
- paricaryātmakaṁ karma
- śūdrasyāpi svabhāva-jam
- (BG 18.44)
"Farming, cattle-raising and business are the qualities . . ."
Prabhupāda: They are not cattle-raising; that was . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Cow protection.
Prabhupāda: Cow protection. It has to be corrected. It is go-rakṣya, go. They take it cattle-raising. I think Hayagrīva has translated like this.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Hayagrīva.
Prabhupāda: No, it is especially mentioned go-rakṣya. Kṛṣi-go-rakṣya-vāṇijyaṁ vaiśya-karma svabhāva-jam (BG 18.44). And then?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Paricaryātmakaṁ karma śūdrasyāpi svabhāva-jam.
Prabhupāda: And to serve under somebody, that is śūdra. So at the present moment people are being educated to serve under somebody. Technology . . . one is very expert in some particular line of technology, say computer machine, you know how to operate. It is a big qualification. But unless he gets a job under some big establishment, he is useless. He cannot live independently. The first-class man will live independently. The second-class man also will live independently. And the third-class men, they will also live independently. And those who cannot live independently, they are fourth-class men. So at the present moment we are simply creating fourth-class men. So fourth-class men, they are prone to be degraded. If you don't raise them to become first class, they must degrade. So that is the position of the present civilization. They are creating all fourth-class men, and gradually they are degrading.
So now you should take up very seriously how you can create some first-class men. First class, second class, third class also. If you simply remain in the fourth grade, technology . . . technology means he has to serve under somebody. This industry, that is also the same thing. Hundreds and thousands of men are working. They are fourth-class men—and śūdra. Just like formerly in Indian village . . . still there are. They are self-supported. Suppose there is a blacksmith. If you require some black iron instrument, you go there and he will prepare immediately—say, an oil crusher, extracting oil. So weaver, self-supported. Now these things have been taken in larger scale. That is called industry. But actually these things are meant for the śūdras, fourth-class men. So the problem is that if we keep men fourth class or increase only fourth-class men, so these things are automatic, the resultant action. Therefore, in the Western countries especially, everywhere, all over the world, the attempt should be how to create first class, second class. At least these two classes required: good politicians, administrators, and good advisors.