Prabhupāda: No, no. Initiation should go on. Even . . . you do not understand what I have said, that that is for Vaiṣṇava. A Vaiṣṇava and Viṣṇu . . . just like Kṛṣṇa is Viṣṇu, He's not human being, but He was acting like human being, similarly, Vaiṣṇava is transcendental, but for proper management of the material world, one should be acting like brāhmaṇa, one should be acting like kṣatriya. That is required. Just like actually we are doing so. Some of you are preaching, and some of you are cleansing the temple. It does not mean that a sannyāsī who is preaching, he is better than that man who is cleansing. The . . . their position as Vaiṣṇava is the same. But for the management, one is cleansing, one is seeing the construction, one is going to preach—like that. That should be there. It is not that, "Because I have taken sannyāsa, therefore I cannot anymore do anything." If need be, he has to act as kṣatriya, or a śūdra. It doesn't matter.
Hṛdayānanda: Oh.
Prabhupāda: Doesn't matter. But manage . . . for management, this division must be there. Otherwise it will be mismanagement. Yes. A Vaiṣṇava coming to the position of doing the work of a śūdra does not mean he has become śūdra. He's Vaiṣṇava. Try to understand this point. Just like in the stage. If you want to play something, one must be king, one must be queen, one must be . . . but neither of them king or queen. That is stage play. Similarly, to manage things in the material world we have to . . . guṇa, karma. Karma there must be. Therefore the karma should be done, executed, according to quality.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: So in our movement, the leaders must decide how every devotee and every resource is engaged properly.
Prabhupāda: That is leadership. That is leadership. The . . . which man is fitted for which work.