Prabhupāda: So chant Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: (aside to Hari-śauri:) You can cut this into pieces and boil, four times water.
Hari-śauri: Boil?
Prabhupāda: With four times water. And when it is one . . .
Hari-śauri: All boiled down.
Prabhupāda: . . . then squeeze it.
Hari-śauri: When do you want it? Now?
Prabhupāda: If possible.
Come on. (distributes cookies) So distribute to the fathers and mothers. Give him one more. He has here. All right, give them first. Come on.
Devotee (1): They came from London, Śrīla Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Oh.
Devotee (1): They came to Paris to see you, and when they learned that you were here, they came all the way here to the . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Oh, give them this garland. (break) . . . he begins with surrender. Sarva-dharmān parityajya mām ekaṁ śaraṇaṁ vraja (BG 18.66). So anyone who voluntarily offers obeisances, immediately he becomes fifty percent advanced. Because . . . (child murmuring) Who is talking? This material world means nobody wants to surrender. Everyone wants to become master: "I am the monarch of all I survey." Everyone is planning how to become a master. There is therefore the struggle for existence. Nobody wants to become a servant. You know very well in European history, Napoleon wanted to become the master of all Europe. Hitler wanted also. Similarly, there were so many leaders, sometimes Roman leaders, sometimes Greek leaders, sometimes French leaders, sometimes German leaders, English leader. The whole European history is full of fighting, war. The basic idea is that everyone wanted to become master. That is the material disease. We are now discussing Bali Mahārāja. He also wanted to become master of the whole universe. So that is the material disease. Actually, master is one: Kṛṣṇa. There cannot be two masters. There is only one master: that is Kṛṣṇa, or God. But in the material world, because we have forgotten the real master, every one of us is trying to become master. This is material disease. Not only in one life, but life after life. The cats and dog, they also want to be master. The dog, if he finds another dog coming, he immediately begins barking very loudly, "Why you are coming here?"
So this mastership competition is going on life after life, sometimes as human being, sometimes as animal, sometimes as fish, aquatics, sometimes as demigod, bird. This is the whole material situation. And the difficulty is that we cannot become master, but on account of our false ambition that, "I shall become master," we are becoming servants of material nature. We are acting in a certain way to become master, creating a situation, mentality, and at the time of death, when this body finishes, the mind absorbed in that mastership idea takes me to another body according to my ambition. So I become again manifest in different body to exhibit my mastership; another chapter begins. So they do not know how these subtle laws of material nature is working to give us opportunity to become master according to our idea, false idea. And we are actually suffering, sometimes as human being, sometimes as animal, sometimes as trees, sometimes as dog. So the mastership cannot be attained. That is not possible. In the false idea to become master we are becoming slaves of the laws of material nature. This is real position, and that is suffering.