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They have got so much transcendental spiritual pleasure, this sex pleasure - they are astonished: is that pleasure? Phu! (makes spitting sound) That stage is possible. Still there are so many brahmacaris. So everything depends on practice

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"They have got so much transcendental spiritual pleasure, this sex pleasure—they are astonished: is that pleasure? Phu! (makes spitting sound)" |"That stage is possible. Still there are so many brahmacārīs. So everything depends on practice"

Conversations and Morning Walks

1976 Conversations and Morning Walks

This is determination, that "If I cannot train my children to become Kṛṣṇa conscious and thus avoid the botheration of birth and death, I shall not have sex." That determination will save so many troubles. That can be done by practice. By engaging the mind in Kṛṣṇa, it is possible. The more you advance in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, you'll lose interest in this sex life. In Vaikuṇṭha there is no sex life because the sex pleasure is not the foremost pleasure in the Vaikuṇṭhaloka. The sex pleasure is foremost here in this material world. They have got so much transcendental spiritual pleasure, this sex pleasure—they are astonished: is that pleasure? Phu! (makes spitting sound) Yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravinde nava-nava-rasa-dhāma . . . (Yāmunācārya). That stage is possible. Still there are so many brahmacārīs. So everything depends on practice. Abhyāsa yoga-yuktena (BG 8.8). That requires determination.

This whole principle this whole world is merged into sinful activities. That is called unnecessary. That is material position—unnecessarily creating trouble. There is no necessity. But on account of ignorance, foolish association, sinful life, more and more and more and more going on. Andhā yathāndhair upagīyamānāḥ (SB 7.5.31). And the leaders encouraging: "Yes, you do this. Enjoy life." What is his enjoyment? If anyone sees slaughterhouse, will he enjoy? Hmm? What is . . .? He visits a slaughterhouse, is it enjoyment? But he takes as enjoyment. This is anartha: unnecessary, without any meaning. Mad, just like a madman acts, without any meaning. The monkey acts without any meaning. This is called anartha: unnecessarily creating disturbance. Anartha. . . . anarthopaśamaṁ sākṣād bhakti-yogam adhokṣaje (SB 1.7.6). If you take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, then all anartha will be finished. Anartha-nivṛttiḥ syāt. We are no more interested in unnecessary things. Illicit sex—one side they are encouraging contraceptive method. So why they'll not stop illicit sex, then automatically there is contraceptive method? So one side there is encouraged, contraceptive method, another, unlimited, unrestricted sex. This is their civilization. Why not teach him not to practice illicit sex? Then everything is done automatically. There's no need of contraceptive method. If one is trained up to indulge in sex only for begetting nice children, there is already contraceptive method. There is no necessity of unnecessarily producing cats and dogs children.

So that requires training, determination. So śāstra says you should not become father if you cannot train up your children to save him from death. Who is the father who's training? To save him from the cycle of birth and death means to make him Kṛṣṇa conscious. So if you are not yourself Kṛṣṇa conscious, how you can train up your children to become Kṛṣṇa conscious? This is determination, that "If I cannot train my children to become Kṛṣṇa conscious and thus avoid the botheration of birth and death, I shall not have sex." That determination will save so many troubles. That can be done by practice. By engaging the mind in Kṛṣṇa, it is possible. The more you advance in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, you'll lose interest in this sex life. In Vaikuṇṭha there is no sex life because the sex pleasure is not the foremost pleasure in the Vaikuṇṭhaloka. The sex pleasure is foremost here in this material world. They have got so much transcendental spiritual pleasure, this sex pleasure—they are astonished: is that pleasure? Phu! (makes spitting sound) Yad-avadhi mama cetaḥ kṛṣṇa-padāravinde nava-nava-rasa-dhāma . . . (Yāmunācārya). That stage is possible. Still there are so many brahmacārīs. So everything depends on practice. Abhyāsa yoga-yuktena (BG 8.8). That requires determination.

Page Title:They have got so much transcendental spiritual pleasure, this sex pleasure - they are astonished: is that pleasure? Phu! (makes spitting sound) That stage is possible. Still there are so many brahmacaris. So everything depends on practice
Compiler:Soham
Created:2023-02-21, 04:15:45
Totals by Section:BG=0, SB=0, CC=0, OB=0, Lec=0, Con=1, Let=0
No. of Quotes:1