Prabhupāda: Actually they are seeing that, "These Hare Kṛṣṇa people, they're so nice character, they're behavior, God conscious. So if all people become like this, then where we are?" Because as soon as become . . . people become Kṛṣṇa conscious, they'll non-cooperate with the slaughterhouse, liquor industry, gambling, illicit sex. They will non-cooperate. Then the whole plan of civilization will be collapsed. Ātreya Ṛṣi: Their biggest industry is the war industry.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: War, killing.
Prabhupāda: So? So how they can . . . (indistinct) . . .? They do not know, or do not actually want to see people enlightened. It is not their policy. It is simply make some show. Show means spend another set-up amount, investigation. Their men, the government men, they get money, that's all.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Jaya.
Prabhupāda: And finished. Engage some rascal report. This is going on.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Exactly. Exactly.
Prabhupāda: Very dangerous.
Ātreya Ṛṣi: They are all thieves, Prabhupāda.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Ātreya Ṛṣi: Thieves, stealing from each other.
Prabhupāda: That's all. They don't want to see people very enlightened. "It is folly to be wise where ignorance is bliss." But at least how to become wise, that injunction has been given to you. Now you try to save the country, how to do it.
These people will not be. You'll have to educate the people, and they'll vote you to the senators, president; then your country will be nice. Just like by Kurukṣetra, Kṛṣṇa smashed all Duryodhana and company, and He posted Yudhiṣṭhira Mahārāja. That is the Kṛṣṇa's politics. He wanted to smash all these demons and have His own men posted on the royal throne.
When Kali could not penetrate into the daily behavior of the people, he planned killing of Parīkṣit Maharaja. So one Kali brāhmin cursed him to death, for no fault practically. Therefore the brāhmins of this age, they are condemned. The so-called caste brāhmins, they're condemned. That is lamented by the father of the boy who cursed Parīkṣit Maharaja