In Vedic literature it is Bhū-gola, jagad-aṇḍa. These words are there. We can see also it is round, jagad-aṇḍa. The universe is round. And Goloka, or Bhū-gola. Bhū-gola, the earth is round. So the Vedic literatures . . . therefore their knowledge is also imperfect, because they do not refer to the Vedic literatures. It is already there. Bhū-gola. Bhū means the earth; gola means round. It is already there. And the geography's called, according to Sanskrit, it is called Bhū-gola. Long, long ago, before Galileo.
So if the state is blind, he does not see whether he's talking right or wrong, then havi candra raja gobi candra mantri. What can be done? That is going on. Because the government means a set of fools, so all foolish people are flourishing. Government is a set of fools because sins are there. They cannot be intelligent. A sinful man cannot be intelligent. Yes. That's a fact. If he's intelligent, then his intelligence is used for wrong things. Duṣkṛtina. Kṛtina. Kṛtina means intelligent, but duṣkṛtina, badly intelligent, for doing wrong things. (japa)
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Of course, there is a gap of understanding.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Svarūpa Dāmodara: There is a gap of understanding.
Prabhupāda: Gap of understanding because the basic principle is wrong, because everyone is fool. And they are trying to understand things with their foolish background. There is the wrong. They are trying to be advanced in knowledge on the foolish background. They do not accept that, that they are foolish rascals. And they are trying to advance in knowledge, active foolish, fourth-class men. Their background is wrong. No scientist, no politician, no philosophers at the present moment believe in this, that there is soul, and the soul is transmigrating from one body . . . nobody believes it. So their whole background is foolish. So their so-called advancement must be all foolish.
They're all fools, rascals, animals. An animal does not know that there is soul and the soul is transmigrating from one body to another. This is animal conception. You cannot teach these pigeons that "You are spirit soul. Your body's different from you." They will . . . they have no power to understand. So if a human being cannot understand, what is the difference between these pigeons and cats and dogs and him? Then basic principle is wrong. Just like in mathematical calculation, if at one point you have mistaken, then will that be correct ever? It will go on mistaking, mistaking, mistaking, mistaking. If the, if one point, while adding, you have made two plus two equal to five, then after that, everything wrong, everything wrong, everything wrong.