Prabhupāda: Let us see what is the reception. (break) We have come from a different way. From Buffalo.
Kīrtanānanda: Yes, you had to come from Buffalo. (break) . . . take to get to Buffalo?
Prabhupāda: Three hours.
Hari-śauri: No, only about an hour and a half.
Prabhupāda: Hour and half?
Hari-śauri: Yes.
Prabhupāda: No, no, from . . .
Kīrtanānanda: To the airport from Toronto?
Hari-śauri: From leaving Toronto, we left one o'clock, and we arrived at . . . it was about two hours. We arrived just after three.
Kīrtanānanda: Some devotees were there from Buffalo?
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. (break)
Kīrtanānanda: . . . had a very nice place for you.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. (break) People are being kept in such an ignorant way that they do not care about sinful activities. They can do anything for sense gratification. Nūnaṁ pramattaḥ kurute vikarma (SB 5.5.4). Actually, there is no advancement of civilization. They are thinking they are running on four-wheel motorcar, and the dog is running on four legs. What is the quality change? This is going on in the name of civilization, and people are kept in ignorance. Where is the advancement? Running by motorcar is advancement? They have no knowledge that there is next life, and "Today I am running on Ford car, tomorrow I may have to run like dog on four legs."
Kīrtanānanda: They do not think like that.
Prabhupāda: So this is ignorance, this is ignorance. And they are kept, the whole world—the state, the father, the guardian, everyone, the priest . . . (indistinct) . . . knowledge. Dull-headed, ignorant. And they are passing on as philosopher, scientist, religious leader. (break) . . . hard to bring them to Kṛṣṇa consciousness. Taking these few years, fifty years or sixty years living here, and dance like dog and finish. There is no life. You die peacefully or . . . (indistinct) . . . and not dying peacefully, they cry. Hare Kṛṣṇa.
Kīrtanānanda: How to save them is very difficult.
Prabhupāda: Simply chant. This is the only. Give them chance to come and chant with us, take prasādam. Then after few days or few months, let them understand the philosophy.