Siddha-svarūpānanda: Some scientists, they want to make all the different body parts. They want to give artificial arm, then artificial feet, and they're, they're spending all kinds of money and time making these complicated machinery to do the same thing that the body is doing. And their ultimate goal, these scientists were stating, their ultimate goal was to make a complete human body so that the person never has to die, but he can always change his body just before it breaks.
Prabhupāda: But the maker of that machine will die.
Siddha-svarūpānanda: Yes.
Prabhupāda: He cannot save himself. He can make a machine which will not die, but he will die. Is that all right?
Devotee: Yes.
Prabhupāda: How much perfect he is, that you can consider, that he's making something perfect which will not die, but he will die. So he's imperfect. So how his machine is perfect? This is common argument. He's imperfect. But he cannot make such machine that he will not die.
Satsvarūpa: They say in the future they will . . .
Prabhupāda: Oh, that is, that is a . . . kicking, they on their face. That is the only loophole on which we can kick on their face. You see? They are making machine perfect, but they cannot make themselves perfect. Why don't you ask that, "Why don't you make a machine that you will not die? Your machine will not die, I accept. You are so perfect. But why you will die? Why he will die?" What is their answer?
Siddha-svarūpānanda: They say that they will get to a point where . . . when each cause of their death, maybe, say, a bad heart, then they can get an artificial heart.
Prabhupāda: All right, you can get everything. You will do it. But why don't you do it for yourself that you will not die?
Satsvarūpa: They'll say: "That's all right. I'm working for posterity so that people who come in future generations . . ."
Prabhupāda: What posterity? You cannot take help from your machine. What posterity you will take? It is nonsense. You are starving, and you, you want to speak that, "I will distribute prasādam." What is this nonsense? You are starving, and you are proud of distributing food to others. Is that very good reason, a reasonable proposal? What . . .? First of all, you stop your starvation. Then you can say: "Now I have stopped my starvation, I'll distribute food to the hungry men."
Siddha-svarūpānanda: All the scientists and leaders are all like that. They don't have the vaguest idea. They don't have the vaguest idea . . .
Prabhupāda: Therefore we . . .
Siddha-svarūpānanda: . . . of anything.
Prabhupāda: . . . call them rascals and fools. They may advertise themselves as scientist, but we take them as rascals and fools.