Prabhupāda: In Bengali it is called gacchan. That woman is called, flying the tree, gacchan.
Siddha-svarūpa: Here in the West I think there's a derivative of that. They speak of witches flying on brooms, a broomstick, that a witch can go through the air on a broomstick, or riding a broom, that they can go from one place to the next. But it is made into a fairytale, that, uh. . .
Prabhupāda: No, there is a science. It is called ākāśa-paṭala. And, by yogic process, without any help from any machine, I mean to say, any vehicle, you can go yourself. Just like Nārada Muni goes everywhere. He can go anywhere. That is called laghimā-siddhi. Laghimā. Laghimā means you become so light that you will be carried by the air. And you can believe it. Just like your mind, you can immediately carry you thousands of miles away. So although I am sitting here, immediately I can go in my mind to Māyāpura. I am sitting in my room and talking in this way—with my subtle mind, immediately. So the mind is so speedy that in one second you can reach Māyāpura, 15,000 miles away—within a second. That is everyone knows. But the gross body cannot do that. Your mind can do it. If I want to transfer my body here immediately to Māyāpura, that will not go. But by yogic process you can do it. That is called laghimā-siddhi. Yogī, real yogī, means they attain perfection in eight items: aṇimā, laghimā, mahimā, then prāpti-siddhi, īśitva, vaśitva.
Siddha-svarūpa: The Chinese, they’re very much into that. They want to develop these, the uh . . .
Prabhupāda: But they can’t. The meat-eaters cannot do it.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yeah, most of the ones who are into it are . . . are very strict about their diet and everything . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. Yoga practice can be done, but very regulated.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: No sex, no meat-eating; no—not this, or this nonsense. Then you can say, he must be pure.
Siddha-svarūpa: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Any spiritual cultivation requires pure.