Bhagavān: The last time there was a war between Pakistan and India the American government put their whole fleet and aimed their guns at India.
Prabhupāda: Yes. They wanted to help Pakistan. But when the Russian came, they took time. Otherwise, fighting would have begun at that time.
Nalinī-kānta: So it almost happened one time before.
Prabhupāda: Maybe that Nixon thought, "If some settlement can be done without fighting . . ." Therefore he went to Russia.
Nalinī-kānta: Yes.
Prabhupāda: Later on. He went to China also.
Bhagavān: Yes.
Prabhupāda: But they are uncompromising. The Communists, they, they are staunch enemy of the capitalist. Their whole philosophy is against God and against capitalism. So if America becomes Kṛṣṇa conscious and fights, they have got strength plus God's blessing. They'll come out victorious. Fight is going on. We cannot stop. But if the American people take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness and fight with the Communist, they'll come out victorious. Then the menace of communistic movement will stop. And we want that. We want that these demonic Communists should be finished. The Russians, as people, they are not Communists. They are not Communists. A certain class. Just like in India, a certain class is Communist. The mass of people is not Communist. They cannot become Communist. It is not possible.
Nalinī-kānta: It is not natural for the living being to be Communist.
Bhagavān: Atheistic Communist.
Prabhupāda: Atheistic Communist.
Nalinī-kānta: It's not natural.
Prabhupāda: They, they're not real communists. Real communist we are. Actually see. All people from all parts of the world, professing different religions, different path of life. Still they are joined. This is natural. Kṛṣṇa community.