Prabhupāda: Now, yes. Cetanā, intelligence, everything, everything. These are all . . . these are all material.
Dr. Patel: That is, what do you call, the liṅga-śarīra.
Prabhupāda: But the . . . some foolish people accept the intelligence, mind, as spirit.
Dr. Patel: No, no, I understand not.
Chandobhai: That is Sāṅkhya philosophy.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Chandobhai: That is Sāṅkhya philosophy.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Dr. Patel: Etat kṣetraṁ samāsena sa-vikāram . . . now, amānitvam adambhitvam ahiṁsā kṣāntir . . . (BG 13.8). (break)
Prabhupāda: That is the first thing, ācāryopāsanam. But these rascals, they do not do that. They have no ācārya; still, they write comment on Bhagavad-gītā. You see? This is the rascaldom. Ācāryopāsanam. One must go . . . ācāryavān puruṣo veda. Unless one accepts ācārya, he does not know anything.
Dr. Patel: And then amānitvam adambhitvam . . .
Prabhupāda: First of all, try to understand one word please. One word, if you understand, your life will be successful. Don't go further. Ācāryopāsanam. This is the very important thing.
Dr. Patel: Every, every word is important, Bhagavad-gītā. Why one word?
Prabhupāda: Yes. So ācārya, who is ācārya? Then next question will be: who is ācārya? Evaṁ paramparā-prāptam imaṁ rājarṣayo viduḥ (BG 4.2). Those who are coming the ācārya-sampradāya. Śrī-sampradāya, Rudra-sampradāya, the four sampradāyas. So unless . . . sampradāya vihīnā ye mantrās te viphalāḥ . . . (Padma Purāṇa). Unless one comes to the ācārya, disciplic succession, whatever nonsense he speaks, it is all useless. This is the most important thing, ācāryopāsanam.
Dr. Patel: Śaucaṁ sthairyam ātma-vinigrahaḥ. Again I read, eh?
Prabhupāda: Hmm.
Dr. Patel: Amānitvam adambhitvam ahiṁsā kṣāntir ārjavam, ācāryopāsanaṁ śaucaṁ . . . (BG 13.8).
Prabhupāda: So amānitvam. Instead of becoming amānitvam, these Māyāvādīs say: "I am God." Just see. This is amānitvam. He falsely claims that, "I have become God now." Does it mean amānitvam? And here, Vaiṣṇava says, gopī-bhartuḥ pāda-kamalayor dāsa-dāsānudāsaḥ (CC Madhya 13.80). This is amānitvam. This is amān . . . "I am servant of the servant." And these rascals are claiming, "I am God." This is amānitvam.