Svarūpa Dāmodara: Is it not also the mercy of Kṛṣṇa Śrīla Prabhupāda that people tend to forget about Kṛṣṇa? Is it a mercy or . . .
Prabhupāda: It is not mercy it is punishment.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That the living entities . . .
Prabhupāda: Tān ahaṁ dviṣataḥ krūrān (BG 16.19) that is explained..
Svarūpa Dāmodara: This . . .
Prabhupāda: These envious persons they are put into such condition of life . . .
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Hm.
Prabhupāda: . . . that they will never be able to understand what is God, that is punishment.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh.
Prabhupāda: That is explained in Bhagavad-gītā and without knowing God he will have to transmigrate from different types of body sometimes like big tree, sometimes ant, sometimes dog, sometimes man, sometimes tiger this is required—fate. All these conditioned soul's within this material world they are that way suffering.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Just . . . (indistinct)
Prabhupāda: Just like they are driving this car they are thinking, "Oh I have got a car. This is māyā. I've got a car I can . . ." Even he is meeting accident, he is still he is thinking, "Oh yes I've got a good car." He does not know that the good car is for his death. Not only that they are killing so many animals on the road, ants and some other big animals they are killing at least small ants they are killing but they are becoming responsible for killing those small animals.