Prabhupāda: Why not here? Why go to Babar Road, spend twenty rupees?
Gurudāsa: According to them, that they sometimes they have to go in the center of town.
Prabhupāda: Nobody has intelligence. It will not . . . it will not stay. It will be spoiled. Joint mess organization. In Los Angeles, they're also doing business—they're going to sell books. But regulative principle is observed. Huge expenditure they have got. No center is so improved as Los Angeles. We have purchased six houses. And I wanted immediately two lakhs, immediately sent. You cannot pay. You simply want to take. In India, nobody can pay. If I want two lakhs, nobody can pay. But all this money have been taken from USA. I asked Bali- mardana, I asked Karandhara. They paid me for this Bombay affair sixteen, eighteen lakhs.
(break) . . . and breathing also does not stop. It goes very slow. Therefore he cannot be immortal. And Bhagavad-gītā proposes that is wonderful thing, if you can stop death. And whole spiritual life means how to stop death. That is Bhāgavatam's instruction: "Don't accept guru, don't accept father, don't accept . . . or don't be father, don't be mother, don't be . . . if you cannot stop death." Either you don't accept, or don't become. Just like they want guru. So don't accept a guru who cannot stop your death. And from guru's side, it is advised, "Don't become guru if you cannot stop the death of your disciple." This is Bhāgavatam's statement. So our Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement is to stop death, live eternally with Kṛṣṇa, go back to home, back to Godhead. This is our movement.
So our guru gives us this opportunity: no more death. Tyaktvā . . . after leaving this body, you don't accept any more material body. And if you don't accept material body, then there is no death. As soon as your spiritual . . . you remain in spiritual body, there is no death. There is no birth also. Death is concomitant where birth is there. If the death is stopped, then there is no birth. And if there is no birth, there is no disease, there is no old age. This is the process. So birth, death, old age, disease can be stopped only by Kṛṣṇa consciousness. So if you don't like to be Kṛṣṇa conscious, then what is the use of becoming your disciple, and if the guru, if he cannot stop your death, birth and death, then what is your becoming guru? So 'mṛtatvāya kalpate. Yaṁ hi na vyathayanty ete puruṣaṁ puruṣarṣabha (BG 2.15). Find out this verse. Yaṁ hi na vyathayanty ete.