Prabhupāda: Very strict. Still, they purchase my books.
Brahmānanda: The whites.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: They were... I think the first time you went there they even were bowing down...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Brahmānanda: ...in the airport. And this caused big sensation, because never, even when big Indian gurus have come to South Africa, never have any whites bowed down. It was the first time whites bowed down to...
Prabhupāda: They clapped. After hearing me they clapped. They purchased books. Now they are selling books. So I think my books are more important. We shall give more concentration for pushing on and publishing. What do you think?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. That is our weapons. They are our strength, they are our guidance and they are our ammunition. Everything is based on these books, everything. We are...
Prabhupāda: One Indian, a very learned scholar in Chandigarh, he has given very good certificate. What is that?
Satsvarūpa: He said that "There have been many commentaries on the Bhagavad-gītā including Rāmānuja, Madhva and Śaṅkara, and then," he said, "Tilak and Gandhi, but of all of them the commentary by A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami is the greatest commentary." Punjab University. Then he said later that "In this suffering mankind, God has sent His Holiness A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami."
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He said greater than the other ācāryas.
Satsvarūpa: Yes. Greater than Rāmānuja and Madhva.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: And he's a big man.
Prabhupāda: He is very big man. Very good scholar also. He goes outside for lecturing.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Practically all the devotees feel your presence through these books.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Their life is sustained with these books, these books and chanting and the Deity worship, sustaining all the devotees in the world and bringing new devotees. Everyone we ask who joins this movement, "Before you joined, did you get a book?" "Yes." In every case I have seen that the first thing was the book.
Prabhupāda: Hm.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Then, after reading, they become convinced and then they joined.
Prabhupāda: So let us do our duty. Our attempt Kṛṣṇa will see. That gentleman has written, "Swami Bhaktivedanta will be remembered for centuries, making history." Is not that?
Satsvarūpa: "Unsurpassed," this... Not just remembered, it will be unsurpassed.
Prabhupāda: And many foreign scholars also, they have. In France... In France one professor has said, "The..."
Satsvarūpa: Chenique?
Prabhupāda: "...Aurobindo and Dr. Radhakrishnan, they have compromised with the Western idea, but here is the real tradition of India." Actually that's a fact. All of them, they have tried to make a hodgepodge. And from the beginning my idea was I shall present as it is. That's all. Therefore I gave this name, "As It Is." Caitanya Mahāprabhu said, yāre dekha tāre kaha 'kṛṣṇa'-upadeśa (CC Madhya 7.128). Why shall I manufacture idea? Present this as it is. All right. Let us do our duty. (devotees offer obeisances) (break) So at any cost, I am still dictating. I'll go on dictating so long I live. That's all. But this is very nice program, our farm program. practical. So if possible, Paramānanda may come and teach them.