Prabhupāda: Fifty years before, when I was in Allahabad, 1920's, there was Kumbhamela. Then forty lakhs people came, fifty years ago.
Dr. Patel: With poor transport then. That transport was not so efficient as it is today, no? More trains and more...
Prabhupāda: No, the Bombay Mail was there, and I think this Kashi Express was not there.
Dr. Patel: Kashi Express is a new.
Prabhupāda: Not very new. That is also not very...
Mr. Gupta: About fifteen years old.
Prabhupāda: Fifteen years.
Dr. Patel: Kashi Express goes to Allahabad and comes back to Benares. I have gone by that train.
Mr. Gupta: Actually Kashi Express was introduced before last Kumbhamela.
Prabhupāda: No, no. No, Kashi Express goes to Allahabad; then, from Allahabad, there is a straight line from Benares, to Benares. Then it goes to Mugger(?) side. Kashi Express, it goes up to Kashi or not?
Mr. Gupta: Up to Kashi.