Dr. Sharma: Yes, actually, this concept is very timely for our country, Prabhupāda. My feeling is that our country has a special place in the Lord's heart, because He came here several times. And the very fact that after independence, nobody could prevent it again, and you have come, all these things, to stop it now. And I think the thing should start from . . .
Prabhupāda: At least, I am the first man to try for it.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: Oh, yes.
Dr. Sharma: And these people, they are very learned in their chosen fields, and they have . . . they are Kṛṣṇa conscious, and they are really keen to do it with enthusiasm, to turn the tide back.
Prabhupāda: They have sacrificed their lives. They are scientists, they could earn lots of money, but they do not care for it. They have dedicated their lives. In America they could earn lots of money, such a qualified person. But they did not care for money. They care for the truth. That is real brāhmaṇa. Brāhmaṇa does not care for money. Knowledge. Satya śamo damas titikṣā ārjavaṁ jñānaṁ vijñānam āstikyaṁ brahma-karma svabhāva-jam (BG 18.42). The truth. That is brāhmaṇa.
Dr. Sharma: And they are living like brāhmaṇas in, you know, so . . . Bhagavān also has taken out time to protect the brāhmaṇa.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Namo brahmaṇya-devāya go-brāhmaṇa . . .
Dr. Sharma: Go-brāhmaṇa-hitāya ca jagad-dhitāya kṛṣṇāya govindāya . . .
Prabhupāda: His first business is to give protection to the brāhmaṇas and the cows. Go-brāhmaṇa-hitāya ca. Jagad-dhitāya. Next, welfare of the others. First, Kṛṣṇa says specifically, kṛṣi-go-rakṣya. He gives specific instruction: go-rakṣya, protect cows. (Hindi) Somebody was speaking to me that some great astrologer long ago predicted the Russia will be first-class theist in future. Who was speaking that?
Devotee (1): What?
Gopāla Kṛṣṇa: That the Russia would be first-class theist.
Devotee (1): I don't know.
Prabhupāda: Yes. The atheist, when they are convinced, they become first-class theist. One of my teachers used to say that anyone who is not easily convinced, he does not forget easily also. And one who easily understands, he easily forgets. So the Russians, they are strong. You cannot convince them by bogus dogmatic theories.
Svarūpa Dāmodara: That's very true. Scientists, once they are convinced, it is also very difficult to . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes. He is not easily convinced, then easily he does not forget.
Dr. Sharma: I've always said, teach the Russians that we have our own brand of communism or socialism.
Prabhupāda: Yes, I have already explained.