Rāmeśvara: So when the Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement becomes so powerful that it is in charge of the government, is it because of a small group of people or because of a mass?
Prabhupāda: It is due to quality of the leaders.
Rāmeśvara: But will it be like Russia where there is only a small group of people who are Kṛṣṇa conscious?
Prabhupāda: No, it is not that. The quality of the people will be changed.
Rāmeśvara: So that means the whole mass population...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: Only then will Kṛṣṇa conscious government...
Prabhupāda: No, no. You can have government when you are in even minority. But the mass of people, on account of this quality, will have to see.
Hari-śauri: The idea is to convince them that what they need is good quality leaders, that not necessarily that they already have to become to that stage themselves.
Prabhupāda: Yes.