Indian man (1): His point is that because everyone is telling Kṛṣṇa is Supreme, therefore you are also supreme, but what does it proof that Kṛṣṇa is Supreme? Everyone is calling as . . .
Prabhupāda: So we have to meet such rascals and we have to preach. The world is full of rascals, mūḍha. What can be done? But we cannot change our preaching because the rascals are many. That is not . . . we cannot make that . . .
Indian man (1): There is no medicine for mūḍhas.
Prabhupāda: Yes. There is medicine: there is beating with shoes. That is medicine. Mūrkhasya laktausadhiḥ, argumentum baculum. You cannot mildly speak to the animals, "My dear cow, my dear dog, please do not bark. Do not go this way." No, you require lāṭhi, stick, and they will behave. Can you stop dog's barking by simply request? But you take the stick and beat it, and he will stop. Mūrkhasya laktausadhiḥ. So there is no king. There is no kṣatriya. Therefore these rascals are talking all nonsense. There is no śāsana. This is king's duty, to see that they are acting according to śāstra. But there is no such king. So everyone is acting whimsically, whatever he likes, and the so-called svāmīs are preaching, "No, no, whatever you like, that's all right. You can eat whatever you like. You can do whatever you like. You think yourself that you are God, that's all right." This is going on. By thinking himself that he's God, he becomes God. This is going on, so many meditations: "I am moving the sun, I am moving the moon, I am moving . . . mo-mo-mo-mo." (laughter) And rascals are following them.
Indian man (1): They do not know the process of God.