Hari-śauri: Now that we're being attacked like this physically...
Prabhupāda: So we must attack them also.
Hari-śauri: Should we actually have a training program so that our...
Prabhupāda: No.
Hari-śauri: ... we'd know how to defend? Like you were saying varṇāśrama...
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: ...system there must be kṣatriya and everything like that.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Hari-śauri: Should we actually start to...
Prabhupāda: Train.
Hari-śauri: ...train up some of our men so they know how to fight?
Prabhupāda: Yes, why not?
Hari-śauri: 'Cause we have men who know how to use guns. They practice a little. But on the whole, our devotees don't... They're not...
Prabhupāda: They are not trained up.
Hari-śauri: Trained up to be able to defend themselves, and these people are professional guṇḍās.
Prabhupāda: That...? What is that? "Kivat?" They practice self-defense?
Hari-śauri: Karate.
Prabhupāda: Karate.
Hari-śauri: There's different forms of self-defense. (end)