Kṛṣṇa says two things, that yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir bhavati (BG 4.7). When there are discrepancies in the matter of executing religious principles . . . So there is religion. Yadā yadā hi dharmasya glānir. Glānir means discrepancies. When there is discrepancies of religious principles, and abhyutthānam adharmasya, and the society is prominent in doing sinful activities, abhyutthānam . . . If you are not religious, then you must be irreligious. Two things are there. If there is no light, it is darkness. If it is not darkness, it is light. Similarly, two things cannot go. Either you are a demon or you are Kṛṣṇa conscious, godly. This is the conclusion. Dvau bhūta-sargau loke daiva āsura eva ca (BG 16.6). There are two kinds of men in this world. Not only in this world; throughout the whole universe. Two kinds. No third. What is that? Daiva āsura eva ca. One is godly, another is demon. So what is the difference? Viṣṇu bhakto bhaved daiva (BG 16.6). Those who are devotees of the Supreme Lord, they are called demigods, or godly; and āsuras tad-viparyayaḥ, and those who are opposite number, they are demons.
So we have got two tests. One test is sufficient. If one is not devotee, if one is not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's a demon. Finish our conclusion. We simply ask whether you are Kṛṣṇa conscious, whether you know Kṛṣṇa. If he says, "No, no. I don't know . . ." I think our Śyāmasundara's daughter is . . . She used to preach. She used to go to any elderly person when she was four years old: "Do you know Kṛṣṇa?" you see. So he says, "No, I don't know." "Oh, the Supreme Personality of Godhead." This is preaching. Finish, preaching. A child can preach. A child can understand, "Do you know God?" "No." "You are a demon." (laughter) Finished. Where is the difficulty? As soon as you say, "I do not know God," you are a demon. Bās. First-class demon. "I am scientist." "You are rascal." "No, I have studied, I have got my degrees." "Māyayāpahṛta-jñāna. (laughter) Rascal, you have studied so long, simply waste of time. Your real knowledge is taken away because you do not know God."
That is described. We have got very simple test in Kṛṣṇa consciousness movement how to distinguish between an intelligent man and a rascal. As soon as we understand that he's not Kṛṣṇa conscious, he's a rascal. Bās. There is no need of testing. Even though he's M.A., Ph.D, D.H.C. and so on, so on, still we shall call him a rascal. This is open challenge; it is not secret. How? Cāṇakya Paṇḍita has said, tyaja durjana-saṁsargaṁ vidyayā 'pi alaṅkṛto san. He very nicely says that "Rascals and fools—must give up their company." Tyaja durjana-saṁsargam. "No, I have got many friends, they are university educated." But he says, vidyayālaṅkṛto 'pi san. Even they are with degrees of M.A. Ph.D., tyaja durjana saṁsargaṁ vidyayālaṅkṛto 'pi san. Even he is educated, so-called educated, he's not educated. Anyone who does not know about God, he's not educated, he's a rascal. This is our conclusion. Not our conclusion, this is śāstra's conclusion. So "He has got so many degrees and he's a rascal and he's durjana, a bad man?" "Yes." "Why?" Now, maṇinā bhuṣitaḥ sarpaḥ kim asau na bhayāṅkaraḥ. Suppose a serpent, he has got a gem on his head. Is it not fearful? Very good example. Suppose a snake comes here and it has a jewel on the head. So you'll be all safe? (laughter) No. He's dangerous.