So there are stages. One has to learn this from authoritative sources. Then it is possible to become . . . but our movement, it is . . . chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra is so nice that what was possible after many, many births, you can get it within a few weeks.
That is a fact. If you chant Hare Kṛṣṇa mantra as we are doing, then you'll understand. Very quickly your self-realization, your freedom from designation, your mental concoction, everything will be cleared, and there will be no more anxiety.
So we request everyone. We are not charging anything. We are not saying that, "I shall give you some mantra. You pay me fifty dollars, and it is private." No. It is open, without any charge. Anyone can. These boys, American boys and girls, they are chanting. Similarly, you can also chant. There is none Indian, but they are very nicely chanting Hare Kṛṣṇa. You can also chant. There is no fee. You just make an experiment on how you become free from this designation.
So our request is that everything will be complete if you take to this chanting: Hare Kṛṣṇa, Hare Kṛṣṇa, Kṛṣṇa Kṛṣṇa, Hare Hare/ Hare Rāma, Hare Rāma, Rāma Rāma, Hare Hare. And there is no very strict rules, regulation. You can chant anywhere, either in this room or outside the room or on the road, street, bus. Wherever you find opportunity, you chant simply Hare Kṛṣṇa and see the result.
So this is a process of purification. When we actually purify our this material contamination and designation, we, I mean to say, raised, we are promoted to the actual spiritual life. And then, at that time, we shall feel happy and our consciousness will be broader, and everything will be all right.
Indian man: I don't know the equivalent verse of Sanskrit from the Gītā, but somewhere it says that . . . Kṛṣṇa says: "All roads lead to Me. No matter what one does, no matter what one thinks, no matter what one is involved with, eventually he's evolving towards Me," this Kṛṣṇa.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that's nice, but . . .
Indian man: In this evolution, is it a natural evolution that you can teach people, you can guide people, you can show them the path, but the actual progress that one would make towards the supreme knowledge, is that a natural evolution, or is it . . .? Can that be influenced by external teaching?
Prabhupāda: No. There is natural, of course . . .