Yogeśvara: But in that case, in which of these four divisions are we?
Prabhupāda: First class. (break) That is the beginning. But we go above the first class. (break) Similarly, socially also, you must have four divisions. The reason is, the material nature is working under three divisions—goodness, passion and ignorance. In our body also, the brain is working under goodness quality. The arm is working under the influence of passion. The belly is working in between passion and ignorance. And the leg is working under ignorance. Leg cannot work unless there is direction by the brain.
At the present moment, the society's working under the influence of passion and ignorance. The brain is lacking now. Therefore we are creating Kṛṣṇa conscious men who has got real brain, intelligent class of men. So other classes of men, who are acting under influence of passion and ignorance, they should take direction from us. And for our directing business, we don't charge anything. And if they follow our direction, they have no loss.
Bhagavān: It can be tested.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore this movement is the most important movement. For giving direction we don't charge, and by following our direction they don't lose anything. So why not make an experiment and see the result? The result is already there. Any intelligent man can see. It is not bluff.
Bhagavān: We are living, sixty, seventy people in this house, cooperatively, like this. That is a very great thing.
Prabhupāda: And they are living very happily. You can see from their face. Yes. They are known as bright-faced. Yes. Many, I mean, Christian priests, they came to congratulate me—"Swāmījī, how you have made your disciples so jolly and bright-faced?" The government in America, they are surprised that even after spending millions of dollars, they could not drive away LSD intoxication. And as soon as a intoxicated person comes to our camp, he not only gives up LSD and liquor, he gives up even smoking, drinking tea and coffee. So why not experiment this movement? The greatest socialist movement. If you want to get the socialistic idea, we can give you.