Pṛthu-putra: Franscend. He says there is many svāmī and writer come from India and teach to the people, to the Western people, what is Kṛṣṇa, what is Indian philosophy, what is God, but they always teach the people who need to be safe, to be . . . who need something to be safe, and they take it like just a drug or just like some kind of a dream, just to get something to get safe from the material world. But that doesn't mean their action is concrete. That is his point.
Prabhupāda: But we are not doing that. We are, in the material world, we are teaching Kṛṣṇa philosophy, practicing. All these young men, they are actually twenty-four hours' engaged in Kṛṣṇa consciousness. We are different from them.
Roger Maria: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: He thinks that the people in Western world, mostly now they take Indian religion, some religion or philosophy come from India, because the Christian philosophy has some defect.
Prabhupāda: Very good.
Roger Maria: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: And he says the religions that come from India are infinitely richer than the religion we know in the West. And we cannot see only one aspect. He says there is so many faces in Indian religions.
Prabhupāda: Yes. In . . . the idea of philosophy and religion, that is originated from India. There is no doubt about it. And that original idea of philosophy is practically demonstrated by Kṛṣṇa. The ideal, original ideal of religion and philosophy is preached by Kṛṣṇa. And all the ācāryas followed that.
Roger Maria: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: He said that is the distinction between the dogmatic aspect between the Hindu religions and the Western religion.
Bhagavān: What is that?
Roger Maria: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: He says the Christian or the Western religion are marked by dogmatists, and they are very . . .
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Pṛthu-putra: And they have imperialist conception.
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Yogeśvara: He says that Western religions are narrow-minded, that they don't have the openness that the religions of the East have, in India for example. And that the West has this capitalist, imperialistic tendency which is also supported by its religion.
Prabhupāda: No. First . . . therefore I asked what does he mean by religion.
Roger Maria: (French)
Pṛthu-putra: He says we can't say . . . his point is we can't say something. There is so many aspects of religion. There is the bhakti-yoga, by love and by heart. There is the karma-yoga, by action. There's jñāna-yoga, by knowledge. He says if in Western countries we propagate bhakti-yoga, we take the risk of using it, bhakti-yoga, like a drug or something like this, as if you are dreaming or something like that.
Prabhupāda: (laughing) Bhakti-yoga by drugs?
Pṛthu-putra: He says, he made the statement . . .
Prabhupāda: That is . . .
Pṛthu-putra: . . . according to the state of the French people in right now, in this time.
Prabhupāda: But we do not prescribe drug. We ask them to give up drug. (laughter)
Karandhara: What he's questioning, Prabhupāda, is whether or not bhakti-yoga is suitable for everyone in every instance.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the only yoga meant for the human being. Any other yoga system practice, they're against bhakti-yoga.