Prabhupāda: And this body is . . . either dead or alive, Bhagavad-gītā condemns: gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ (BG 2.11). So these rascals are interested with this body, and they're proud of their advancement of education. And Bhagavad-gītā says nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ. So they are passing as great scientists, philosophers, politicians, philanthropists, but all apaṇḍitāḥ. Nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ. That means apaṇḍita. (Hindi) And the first thing of Bhagavad-gītā lesson is that aśocyān anvaśocas tvaṁ prajñā-vādān (BG 2.11): "You are talking like a learned man, but you are rascal." Apaṇḍitaḥ. One who is not educated, he's a rascal. So He's indirectly saying: "This kind of lamentation is not for the paṇḍita. It is for the rascal." So whole world is interested with this body, and Bhagavad-gītā's teaching begins condemning the concept of body. Gatāsūn agatāsūṁś ca nānuśocanti paṇḍitāḥ. Dehino 'smin yathā dehe kaumāraṁ yauvanaṁ jarā tathā dehāntara-prāptiḥ (BG 2.13). Nobody knows this. And they are very learned scholars in Bhagavad-gītā. All these rascals, they're claiming to be learned scholar of Bhagavad-gītā.
Indian man (2): (Hindi) We are lucky souls that we are surrendered souls.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi conversation) Whatever is done, it is by single man's effort. If all our actually leaders, they take up, then India will be glorified. They'll feel . . . yes, they're expecting. Outside India, people, they expect that there is something better knowledge in India. Therefore as soon as some svāmīs or yogī goes there, they come. But they cheat.
Indian man (2): Many have come to cheat.
Prabhupāda: These rascals, I shall say that, sir, they do not know anything, and they go there for teaching yoga. And they are bogus.
Indian man (2): Bogus, bogus. So many bogus people are going.
Prabhupāda: They do not know what is yoga.
Indian man (2): They do not know what is what. What that is truth. They don't know.
Prabhupāda: And they get cheap money and women and that's all. That is their business. (Bengali conversation)
Gurukṛpā: He has a temple. The whole third floor of his house is a temple. He has Sītā-Rāma, Kṛṣṇa, Gopāla. He has big temple. They have saṅkīrtana every night. Every morning and night.
Indian man (2): (Hindi conversation with Prabhupāda)
Gurukṛpā: That Raṅganātha temple is that temple where they do not allow us in. So Sampat Kumar and all of these paṇḍitas, they will sign one letter trying to request them, also with the Purī people, to request them to let us in. While they are all here they will do that. Also Sampat Kumar was thinking that in November and December in South India the weather is nice because the rainy season is finished, and it would be a very good time to go and visit many of the temples. He personally knows many people in all the big temples: Shri Rangam, Kañcipuram, Mahabalipuram, Tirupati. They could arrange for receptions and programs.
Prabhupāda: (Hindi with Indians) Indians, they are not coming. Intelligent, educated Indians, they are not coming. (Hindi with Indians) Especially South Indians, they are, still their Indian original culture is still there in South India. Other parts of India, they are not now Hindu.
Indian man (3): Correct. (Hindi conversation)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) We have got buses. We have got buses—two, three. Any number of. It is very simple method, that we combine together, Indian and foreigners. Go in buses. (Hindi) Now it should be organized movement. This is simply (Hindi).
Indian man (3): You must also come in Bangalore once. Then it will be all . . .
Prabhupāda: Immediately think over that these Europeans, Americans are there. Now take up the association of another, at least one dozen, . . . (indistinct) . . . Indians, and let us go together, grāma to grāma . . . what do you think? Is that all right?
Yaśodānandana: We could go from Madras . . .
Prabhupāda: Anywhere.
Indian man (2): Anywhere. Any village. All the villages . . .
Prabhupāda: You start from anywhere and go anywhere and sit down and chant. In India, Bhārata-bhūmi hari-kīrtana (Hindi). Thousands will come. That is India. You won't have to advertise that, "There is hari-kīrtana. Come." No. As soon as you begin, immediately thousands. As soon as there will be sugar grain, immediately the ants will come. It is like that. This is a fact.
Indian man (3): Correct, correct. Hundred per cent correct. (Hindi)
Prabhupāda: (Hindi) Immediately. Just get one dozen good—I mean, good or bad, it doesn't matter—who is ready to work for this purpose. And our men are ready. Our buses are ready. So let us go. There is no question of selecting place. Anywhere. Anywhere.
Indian man (3): Any place, anywhere, all the places.
Prabhupāda: You go and find out some good place for camping and begin kīrtana. Get down from the bus and begin kīrtana. Then all friends will come immediately. They will offer shelter, they will offer food—everything. One thing is that their difficulty is language. Indians are there, they can speak on the local language.
Indian man (2): They can explain everything.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Therefore wanted.
Indian man (3): (Hindi)
Yaśomatīnandana: In Vaikuṇṭha Ekādaśī. In Shri Rangam they have this giant festival every year, the biggest festival in India. It's Vaikuṇṭha Ekādaśī in December.
Indian man (2): Last December we went there.
Yaśomatīnandana: Very big. November-December is a very good time. Pañca-puram. Baradrāj.
Indian man (2): From here. From south . . . (indistinct) . . . up to Cape Comorin. (Hindi conversation)
Yaśomatīnandana: He knows all the places. This is the original birth, Shri Rangam.
Prabhupāda: Now with Suraji's cooperation make a program.
Yaśomatīnandana: Yes, we will do like that. November-December will be very suitable time. Then in January, the Kumbha-melā, we will try to organize something big there also. January, Allahabad, Kumbha-melā
Prabhupāda: (Hindi conversation with Indians)
(pause)
Prabhupāda: That's all. Stop now.
Harikeśa: I was just going to say you should take massage now. I was just going to say it's time for massage.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Harikeśa: Can I tell you about the bank? Punjab National Bank is down the street, and we have our temple account there.
Prabhupāda: Oh, Punjab National Bank is there. That's all right.
Harikeśa: So how much do you want to deposit?
Prabhupāda: That I have to count.
Harikeśa: So we can do it any time. And before you arrange this Kumbha-melā—it's very cold there.
Prabhupāda: Don't talk now.
Harikeśa: Okay.
(long pause)
Prabhupāda: . . . (indistinct)
Hari-śauri: Everything is going on. Wood carving, cement lay, painting, marble polishing. The yajña.
Prabhupāda: If we would have remained there . . . these people are coming. How they could see? . . . (indistinct)
Hari-śauri: Still, it would have been very quiet.
Prabhupāda: We are not . . . (indistinct) . . . Besides that, we don't want quietness. We want how many are . . . (indistinct)
Hari-śauri: Jaya. If you wanted quietness, you could have stayed in Vṛndāvana.