Prabhupāda: I have not very good opinion about the politicians. It may be a very strong word. Politicians . . . Actually, this is the business of the kṣatriyas.
Mrs. Williams: They are in it for personal gain, mostly.
Prabhupāda: They simply go to politics for personal gain, that's all.
Mrs. Williams: Because if they all wanted good—if they all wanted the same kind of good, for the same . . . for all their people—they would not fight in different camps. They would be one people.
Prabhupāda: Hmm. Right. They want personal benefit, not the benefit of the people. They say people's government. No. It is their government.
Mr. Williams: True.
Mrs. Williams: And they must . . . and the people must take and accept what they decree they shall have.
Prabhupāda: That's all.
Mrs. Williams: And if they want the rich people to have more money, they say to the rich people, "You don't have to pay so much taxes." But to the poor people they say: "You must pay more taxes."
Prabhupāda: In the Bhāgavata it is mentioned, the people will be so much embarrassed. One side there will be no rain, another side there will be scarcity of foodstuff. Other side, the government will simply levy taxes. So people will become mad. They will give up their hearth and home and go to the jungle. This time will come, very soon.
Revatīnandana: Well, I think sometimes in the hippie community we see that they are going out in almost into the jungle now.
Mrs. Williams: But you . . .
Revatīnandana: You know these rock 'n' roll festivals—it is practically like living in the jungle. (laughs) They are already doing it.