Indian man (6): (unclear)
Brahmānanda: What is that? The brāhmaṇas who come over from?
Indian man (6): From ISKCON center. We have a tendency (unclear)
Brahmānanda: Yes. So what is your question?
Indian man (6): So don't you think that the blame should not be, usually be laid on the Africans but on the whole...?
Brahmānanda: He's saying that the brāhmaṇas who comes from our overseas temples here, it's their responsibility to see that the Africans follow properly, because the Africans will follow their example.
Prabhupāda: Yes, it is for that purpose they have come. That is the purpose, missionary purpose, here. We come here not to earn some money but to see that this culture is spread. So what is his question?
Brahmānanda: So it's the responsibility then of those who are coming as the missionaries to set the proper example.
Prabhupāda: Yes, certainly.
Brahmānanda: Because then the Africans will follow that proper example.
Prabhupāda: Oh, yes. Yes, he is right.
Brahmānanda: If they set a bad example, then they will follow bad example, then the criticism of the Indians will be justified.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That's it. So those who cannot follow, they should not come here. And ask from the origin that "Those who cannot strictly follow the rules and regulations, they should not come at all. It will set a bad example. They should be forbidden to come here." That I was speaking, that instead of filling with bad cows, better keep the cowshed vacant. That I was speaking. Those who cannot strictly follow our principles, they should not come here. It is bad example. By mistake, if somebody does, he should be regretful and he should rectify. That is another thing. But not willingly he should neglect. Then such person is not required at all.
Devotee (7): Prabhupāda, in the movement there is sometimes difficulty, and...
Prabhupāda: What is the difficulty? You chant sixteen rounds and follow the regulative... Where is the difficulty?
Devotee (7): If they will not accept instruction, then...
Cyavana: Then what is your instruction? If they won't accept your instruction, then what is your instruction? Must be bogus. Huh? If your instruction is pure, then they'll accept. If your instruction is not pure, who will accept? I will not accept.
Prabhupāda: No, "Example is better than precept." If you actually follow strictly the rules and regulations and chant sixteen rounds, why they'll not follow? They'll follow. If you are not attending class, if you are not attending maṅgala ārati, if you are not finishing sixteen rounds, then that is bad example.
Brahmānanda: This boy didn't attend mangal ārati.
Prabhupāda: Don't set bad example. That is detrimental.
Devotee (7): Śrīla Prabhupāda, is it for the advanced devotees...?
Prabhupāda: Nobody is advanced. Everyone is student. He must follow. There is no question of advanced.
Devotee (7): I mean, they call śūdras...
Prabhupāda: Śūdras? Śūdra, how he can be devotee? Śūdras are never devotee.
Indian man (4): No, he says sometimes the devotees, they call the other devotee that "You are śūdra."
Prabhupāda: That is jokingly. (laughter)