Prabhupāda: The Party is dangerous. I've studied the Russians. They are nice.
Rāmeśvara: Victimized.
Prabhupāda: Yes, victimized. They have been suppressed by force, terrorism. Otherwise nice Russian people are as good as others. And they do not like this government. That's a fact. But what can be done? They are forced to accept. Nobody is happy. Everyone is morose.
Hari-śauri: Yes. They're all afraid to speak.
Prabhupāda: Yes. No freedom.
Rāmeśvara: No intellectual freedom.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: That's very well known.
Prabhupāda: No, even physical. You cannot go out without government consent. And they don't allow, especially young men. They do not allow to go out of the country.
Rāmeśvara: No, I was reading to you that if they apply for leaving the country, then immediately there is a long delay.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Rāmeśvara: But during that delay they are forced to lose their job, so they have no income. Then people from outside Russia who are sympathizers start to send money, and the government takes sixty-five percent of it in taxes before the people can get it. So they torture them if they want to leave.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Terrorism. Very dangerous. Now it is published in the paper how they exploit the people. And our India also thinking in terms of Russian philosophy. Lenin's philosophy.