Guru-kṛpā: I think, Śrīla Prabhupāda, that the difference is that we are willing to spread Kṛṣṇa consciousness according to your instructions, but . . .
Prabhupāda: That should . . . That should be. That is the . . .
Guru-kṛpā: But Siddha . . . they have their own way; they think they can influence people to take to Kṛṣṇa consciousness, which is more or less not fully presenting Kṛṣṇa consciousness in a way of complete surrender—in other words, they are keeping hairs and are not full-time devotees, such as we are—to spread it all over the world.
Siddha-svarūpānanda: You mean they're not surrendered to you personally, Guru-kṛpā. It means they're not working with you personally. Unless somebody accepts you or this person or that person . . .
Guru-kṛpā: I'm not . . . No one accepts me.
Siddha-svarūpa: . . .then you get upset.
Prabhupāda: No, I don't wish to agitate your mind. I want that if there is any difference, that should be adjusted, and we must preach combinedly. That is my point.
Siddha-svarūpānanda: So there is no . . . As far as . . . Well, you have to judge yourself. I can't . . . As far as I'm concerned, I try to get people to chant Hare Kṛṣṇa and distribute prasādam, and as far as possible distribute books freely or for charge.
Guru-kṛpā: But the chanting is without surrender to the spiritual master.
Siddha-svarūpānanda: If I'm trying to get people to chant, that's all I can do. And if that will purify them, then surrender will come. How can I force someone to surrender?
Prabhupāda: No, no, what do you mean by surrender?
Guru-kṛpā: I mean that . . .
Prabhupāda: Not that everywhere you are preaching, you are expected all of them will be surrendered immediately. That is not expected. Suppose you are preaching amongst hundreds and thousands of men. So it is not expected that all of them will be immediately surrendered.Is it possible?
Devotees: No.
Prabhupāda: Then?
Madhudviṣa: The point is that many of the men that are following the principles strictly, due to his influence have gone away and have slackened their principles. And that is a fact. Like getting up early for maṅgala ārati. That is not stressed so much. And cutting of the hair. That is not stressed so much.
Siddha-svarūpānanda: How do you know these things? You have never lived with me, nor have you ever heard a lecture I have given.
Madhudviṣa: I have experienced the devotees who have been influenced by you.
Prabhupāda: Anyway, whatever is done is done. Now let us make some adjustment (chuckles) and work combinedly. That is my proposal.