Prabhupāda: So everyone is getting milk? How much?
Kīrtanānanda: As much as they want.
Prabhupāda: As much as they want, then jaundice. (laughter) Too much is not good. They may take minimum half pound per head.
Kīrtanānanda: Minimum.
Prabhupāda: Minimum. And maximum one pound. Not more than that. But "Because there is enough, let us eat," no. That is not good. But children must get at least one pound milk. If they drink more milk they become stout and strong.
Kīrtanānanda: They get more than one pound. They get at least two pounds.
Prabhupāda: Then their life is built up strong, and nice brain to understand. Do they not see the benefit of the society, that we are not killing children, we are maintaining them with sufficient milk? Is it not better civilization? And they are, for fear of overpopulation, they are killing. The mother is killing the child. Is that civilization?
Kīrtanānanda: But in Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa says that those in the mode of ignorance, they take irreligion to be religion and religion to be irreligion.
Prabhupāda: No, religion . . . There is no religion for them, but there is no morality even. Here we are having so many children. We don't brag that "We cannot maintain these children. Kill them." We never say that. Never mind. Let them be trained up as Kṛṣṇa conscious, live comfortably, take milk. So which is better civilization? Running with motorcar, put-put-put-put-put-put-put-put and killing child? Is that civilization?
Kīrtanānanda: Most of these children are not even our own. They have been taken in from . . .
Prabhupāda: Just see, that means we welcome.
Kīrtanānanda: . . .mothers without fathers, and . . .
Prabhupāda: That means we welcome and they kill. So why do they not find the distinction between this civilization, that civilization?
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: They have no arguments against this, except that they want to be free. In colleges . . .
Prabhupāda: But they are not free. That means they are fools. They are not free, still they are thinking "free." That is foolishness. If you are actually free, that is another thing, (laughs) but you are not free. You are responsible for even a minute work or misdeed, you are responsible. Where is your freedom? That freedom means ahaṅkāra vimūḍhātmā kartāham iti manyate (BG 3.27). The rascal, foolish, bewildered, he's thinking that he's free. Where is your freedom? Nature is working. If you are free, then why you are dying? If you are free, then do not die. Nobody wants to die. What is the answer?
Dhṛṣṭadyumna: They will give some nonsense answer.