Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Yes. Kali said that "You have given me nowhere to live now, 'cause in your kingdom there is no such place."
Prabhupāda: Yes. "Therefore I say, get out from my kingdom. I don't care for your religion or business, but you cannot do within my kingdom." And that is king. If I have to flatter you for vote, "Yes, whatever you like, you can do. Give me vote," is that government?
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: No.
Prabhupāda: I follow this. To accept me as guru I have to flatter you—I don't follow. If you want to hear me, then you become my disciple. Otherwise go to hell. Don't want. Here many big men came. And big men means the businessmen, big . . . I refused. "If you cannot follow the instructions . . ." When they are in office there is some income. Nanda, he is driven out from office after some time, at least twenty years. Then he was given post. Long time. What he has done? He has taken from Haryana government some crores of rupees and he has made his own statue, fifty thousand. He has made his own statue. (laughs) He appreciates his own activities. This is their politician. Just like our Bon Mahārāja. He has done so. He does not wait for his death. He knows, "After death everyone will forget me. So let my . . . let me make my own statue, a tīrtha in this āśrama." He wanted to . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: He has a statue?
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is . . . He has done. Like this Nanda has done this. And he's sticking to his whimsical policy. I wanted to mix with him, and I thought that he'll be useful. Useless. Mānava-dharma, "man's religion." I asked him several times that "Is there any dog's religion? You have manufactured that." Religion means man's religion. That much he can do. Mānava-dharma. He is educated, intelligent, buddhi—with no brain. I have studied. And he's a good man also, but no intelligence. I have studied all these rascals. So long they are in office, by the power of office they are useful. Otherwise they are useless. Just like my books they are appreciating. They have never seen me. Not that because I am guru of so many disciples. They appreciate my work. That is real appreciation. "What you have done? What will remain behind? All for the . . .(?)" Anyway, do something. Do. People are . . . (break)
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Blowing?
Prabhupāda: Yes, blowing with mouth.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Blowing with mouth.
Prabhupāda: So they have got business, blowing with mouth in three ways.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: The brāhmaṇas.
Prabhupāda: What is that? First of all, if they are third class, then blowing in the oven, fire.
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Blowing in the . . .?
Prabhupāda: The oven. (laughter) He is third class. And the second class, blowing in the conchshell, pūjārī. And first class? Blowing in the ear and becoming spiritual master. (laughter) But their business is . . .
Tamāla Kṛṣṇa: Blowing.
Prabhupāda: Either here or in the conchshell or in the fire: first, second, third. This is a very . . . said three way.