Reporter: So good government means first of all to accept the Supreme Being as the real ruler of the government.
Prabhupāda: You cannot directly accept the Supreme Being. You must accept the servants of the Supreme Being, the brāhmaṇas or Vaiṣṇavas, devotees of the Lord, as your guides. The government men are the kṣatriyas, the second class. The kṣatriyas should take advice from the brāhmaṇas or Vaiṣṇavas and make laws accordingly. The vaiśyas should carry out the kṣatriyas' orders in practice, and the śūdras should work under these three orders, then society will be perfect. "
The end of the article.
Prabhupāda: You like this?
Kīrtanānanda: Very nice.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Oh, yes.
Hari-śauri: Right to the point.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: They can make a big plane, but they can't make a mosquito. It's so thought-provoking. Here's that article by Dharmādhyakṣa that you liked.
Prabhupāda: What is that?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: That article about . . . he wrote from Vancouver. It was in that small pamphlet that they sent to Los Angeles: "Simple Living and High Thinking." It had a picture of a forest, a stream in the background, and your picture in a little square was superimposed over it.
Hari-śauri: We got it in Hawaii.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Was in Hawaii?
Hari-śauri: Yes. It was for that Habitat conference.
Prabhupāda: So we are not politicians, but we give some idea. Is it not good?
Kīrtanānanda: We have political philosophy.
Prabhupāda: Yes. This is our movement: Take instruction of God, follow it, and you'll be happy. What is this?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: This is the end of that article, then the magazine goes on.
Prabhupāda: They have not replied even. (break) (reading article titles) "Simple Living, High Thinking." "Then and Now: the Right to Distribute the American Dream." Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. So instead of giving books to the members, they can read the books in the magazine. One magazine should be given free always to the members.
Kīrtanānanda: Life Members.
Prabhupāda: Yes. Not books. "ISKCON—Ten Years of Spreading Kṛṣṇa Consciousness."
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Won't it help, though, to have the books in the members' homes, that perhaps their generations may read them?
Prabhupāda: Hmm?
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: Won't it help to have your books in their homes, though? That maybe future generations will, you know, be benefited, they'll read your books?
Prabhupāda: Let the parent, present generation, read first of all. (laughs) Then talk of future generations.
Hari-śauri: At least they're still inclined to read the Bhagavad-gītā. So if they have yours, then they can be correct, they can correct their misunderstandings.
Prabhupāda: What is this article? Ah. "Kṛṣṇa Consciousness—The Spirit of '76." "Curing the Crimes of a Lifetime," Vibhavatī. "Curing the Crimes"—read it.
Puṣṭa Kṛṣṇa: (reads) "Adapted from Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, translation and commentary by His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupāda." In the middle there is a picture of Arjuna piercing the target, and Draupadī being harassed. "With the recent disgrace of an American president still fresh in our minds, it is interesting to read of a similar case in ancient times. Five thousand years ago a blind king named Dhṛtarāṣṭra dishonored his high post and caused the death of millions. This story is of special importance even today, because he found an antidote to the crimes of a lifetime and in his old age became self-realized.